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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kinak" data-source="post: 6347128" data-attributes="member: 6694112">I've run campaigns without gods (even without casters) before. It can work out fine.No GodsThis was a story set at the beginning of the world. People had some suspicions they were put there for a reason, but nobody really knew. The story covered the first gods arising and their conflicts. In the setting the newly risen gods were basically just mid- to high-level characters that could grant spells, eventually including several PCs.What changed? Divine casters weren't available until people started ascending, but no rules changes other than that.What challenges did you run into? In theory healing should have been a problem, but wewere used to not having clerics, so it wasn't a big deal.What objections were encountered? No objections. But nobody is my group back then liked clerics anyway.What was difficult and what became easier? People dying stayed dead was the main thing. Pacing was no different than any other game without a cleric.Overall, what were your thoughts? Good campaign. 4/5 stars. Would run again.If I were to run this again with Pathfinder, I'd probably leave out anything in the "Trained" age category (alchemists, clerics, druids, inquisitors, magi, monks, and wizards) to represent that they just don't exist yet. I could probably pare it down to the "Intuitive" category (barbarians, oracles, rogues, and sorcerers) plus fighters and rangers without any objections from my group.It'd also be a good excuse to play with the mythic rules. I might actually start with "<a href="http://mythicpathfinder.wikidot.com/children-of-myth" target="_blank">Children of Myth</a>" rules and work from there, but that's a much more dramatic shift.No CastersThis worked out... less well. Not for balance reasons or anything, one of my players just really liked casters and I wasn't solid enough as a GM yet to sell it to him or tell him to wait for the next campaign.What changed? No divine or arcane casters until it's (re)discovered. See: many fantasy novels.What challenges did you run into? Extremely insistent player.What objections were encountered? "I only play casters! No wait, I'll play and just complain the whole time."What was difficult and what became easier? Self-destructed too quickly to say.Overall, what were your thoughts? Failed experiment. Would have gone better if I had more skill establishing buy-in.Cheers!Kinak</blockquote>

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