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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Terraism" data-source="post: 1491771" data-attributes="member: 278">Because in core D&D, wizards don't have every spell available - meaning that they can fight a wizard that throws a spell at them they don't have.   True enough, but the problem with so many of those templates is cost - not just laden, but every one of those electric mudballs costs 30 gp - which means that to introduce anything the players haven't seen, spellwise, costs so much a pop.  I don't like that idea much - because, reasonably, no individual is going to turn every mudball into an electric one.  Got 'em.  (Well, the Complete Book, anyway.  Didn't realize Hallowed Might II had new ones.)  Thing is once I allow the spells - whoa, they've got 'em, and they're suddenly nothing special.  As a general rule, I don't like allowing a book of material for my NPC's, but not the players - so if I allow the spells in there, the players get them all too.  And, viola, new and never-before-seen are gone, since they have access to all spells.   That's a good point, though I hadn't even thought of that.  I just want some feeling of new on the part of the characters, which I can't get with the "everyone knows them all" mindset.   Hm.  At the low levels, I haven't really seen a lot of versatility.  I've only got quasi-casters, though, which might have something to with it - an unfettered/greenbond, a witch, and a mageblade.  They all seem to be grabbing the same spells every day at this level (2nd,) because they can't ready very many in the first place.  The greenbond - and witch - both ready Mudball.  Every time.  The mageblade tends to go with Acrobatics and Animate Weapon.  Since I wasn't planning on capping their known spells, my feelings were that, by the time they can ready enough spells that they'd be branching out anyway, they ought to have learned a number from other sources. Some - the greenbond and mageblade, anyway.  The player of the greenbond is all for it, and the mageblade is a newbie, so his opinion was "go with whatever you think'll be better." Hm.  Given how few spells that a character can have readied, with the exception of Greenbonds and Magister, I think that, in the early levels, ~4 + 2/level will probably allow them more flexibility than even triple their spells readied.  Thanks for all the feedback - gave me some angles I hadn't thought of to consider.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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