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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 7988316" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>The examples and scope of Philosophical Advice, while obstensibly from a general knowledge base (so Intelligence) seem to align more with Wisdom (perception, insight). </p><p></p><p>I would be wary of nerfing the Bard in scope and flexibility, as their spell list and spells known are significant restrictions on their scope and flexibility to begin with, while most of their other features (including magical secrets) exist to compensate and make them otherwise one of the most flexible classes out there.</p><p></p><p>If you're going to then reduce the scope and flexibility of the Bard, you're transforming it in a way that changes its entire placement in the balance of the classes. It exists as a Jack-of-Trades, Master-of-None, and any further reductions in their scope & flexibility undermine that role. So you're going to have to either find a new role for the class, or else try to mitigate these changes with increases in other areas.</p><p></p><p>The concept isn't bad, and HD-powered healing was one of the most interesting things about 4e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 7988316, member: 6803643"] The examples and scope of Philosophical Advice, while obstensibly from a general knowledge base (so Intelligence) seem to align more with Wisdom (perception, insight). I would be wary of nerfing the Bard in scope and flexibility, as their spell list and spells known are significant restrictions on their scope and flexibility to begin with, while most of their other features (including magical secrets) exist to compensate and make them otherwise one of the most flexible classes out there. If you're going to then reduce the scope and flexibility of the Bard, you're transforming it in a way that changes its entire placement in the balance of the classes. It exists as a Jack-of-Trades, Master-of-None, and any further reductions in their scope & flexibility undermine that role. So you're going to have to either find a new role for the class, or else try to mitigate these changes with increases in other areas. The concept isn't bad, and HD-powered healing was one of the most interesting things about 4e. [/QUOTE]
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