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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 4698460" data-attributes="member: 57383">  Oh I was thinking along quite a different track. The SRD Tyrannosaurus seems OK to me apart from a poor feat selection, although I agree it could do with a bit more Strength and a few interesting abilities.However, while it’s perfectly good as a realistic prehistoric animal, where it falls short for me is as a Beast of Primeval Terror. So, rather than redo the “basic” Tyrannosaurus, I’d like to come up with a version which has those powers from pulp fiction and bad fantasy which give pleasant nightmares to seven year olds throughout the world, that will strike fear in players rather than have them casually curdle your dinosaurs mind with Will-save effects.I thought about calling this a “Dire Tyrannosaurus” but that had connotations I was a little unhappy with, so I'll call this variant a Primal Tyrannosaurus.So how about we do two versions of the Tyrannosaurus, demiurge's more realistic Tyrannosaurus and my "Primal Tyrannosaurus"? I could put the SRD Tyrannosaurus stats in my next post, and edit them as we decide on changes.Here are some ideas for abilities I'd like to see in the Primal Tyrannosaurus, many of which I’ve cribbed off the dinosaur threads on the Pathfinder forums:The base stats need a bit of tweaking. Improve Strength and Natural Armour?Change the feats. Toughness × 3 certainly needs swapping for something actually useful.Are its racial bonus’s for skills OK, or could it do with a bit of a boost?Give it a kick attack as well as a biteDamage Resistance? (not much, but enough to protect it from being nickle-and-dimed to death)[not so sure about this]Improved Grab (to allow subsequent grapple attacks)Chomp! (can bite opponent in its jaws with a grapple, probably for extra damage.)[Although I could change that to Worry to make it consistent with Demiurge's version]Festering Jaws (A Tyrannosaurus’s jaws are seething with toxic bacteria and stained with its victims’ decomposing flesh. Bite causes exposure to nasty infection)Pounce? Lunge? Ambush? Charge? (Can make a double move [or maybe even a Run?] which ends with a bite attack and an Overrun, once per X minutes. Not sure what to call it.)Swallow Whole (as normal)Pin Underfoot (again big targets that have been knocked prone, or more modest sized victims. Does damage & immobilises)Ignore Death (Can keep on fighting for multiple rounds when mortally wounded)Bestial Will (Can shake off mind-affecting powers that conflict with its instincts)Roar! (Terrifies creatures with its fearsome bellow)[May have frightful presence as well or instead, as demiurge suggests]</blockquote>

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