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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8323309" data-attributes="member: 6796468">To be fair, we're trying to apply human morality to what I'm describing as an unknowable motivation and intent. It might be better to describe them as "Lawful Unaligned".That said, I respect your position. Ambivalence means "Both ends of the spectrum at the same time". Love/Hate is a form of ambivalence and neither of those emotions is near the middle of the spectrum, even if it all "Evens Out" in the end.How would you describe the Good/Evil axis of a creature that actively does great good and great evil in roughly equal amounts because they're completely uninterested in whether their actions are good or evil? A creature or entity that will literally save the world because it is supposed to continue existing but also turn around and kill any number of innocents (And guilty people as well) because they're -not- supposed to continue existing?Are they good, evil, or neutral?whistles Mmmm... Nope!Good as described in any discussion on alignment can be fulfilled by Utilitarianism, Hedonism, Consequentialism, and Deontology. The Value System is all that Alignment describes (Which things make you good or evil) not the structure to determine how.I actually wrote a pretty thorough expression of how each philosophy can motivate characters with a loose guide to understanding and recognizing the moral philosophies of characters to better motivate them and enhance party unity across philosophical viewpoints in a thread last month.</blockquote>

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