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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 3396467" data-attributes="member: 2525">So is it your opinion that I have not seen this happen, and I am simply lying in order to create drama?  I mean that as an honest question.  If you suspect there is no thread where I have seen this happen, then what are you saying when I tell you I have seen it (and the original poster apparently as well)?As for me catching others in a catch-22, hey we are asking for a guideline that apparently causes nobody any harm at all.  Untill I see someone actually give a reason why it would harm anyone in the least, I'm not sure how I've caught anyone in anything.As for the thanks mods - I thank the mods often.  I think they do a great job in general.  I do not think raising this issue of an internal guideline (which doesn't even have to be announced to users - since it really is an internal thing) is some broad brush comdemnation of mods.  I've been a mod on several other boards, and I know how hard it is to do and how thankless it can be, and I am fully in support of the mods in general on this board.  It's one of the other reasons I don't want to single out any particular mod on this issue.  But I think people should feel safe in raising this kind of topic without the fear that others will frame it as an attack on the mods.Heck, the mere fact that you raise the "thanks mods" issue shows the circling the wagon mentallity.  Already we are at the point where I suspect if I linked to a thread where a mod threatend to ban someone for smiling wrong, a huge number of people would defend the mod merely out of instinct to defend the mod (and no that has not happened - that one really is a hypothetical).  The issue has already risen to the level of being an impossible burden to overcome the presumption that a mod's decision to close a thread is correct.I guess I should bow out of this one (not trying to be dramatic "take my toys and go home" there, though I admit it sounds like that).  I really do think there is no possible thread I could present at this point that would result in any reaction other than "you are wrong", because people think I am attacking the mods rather than suggesting a guideline.  And if I don't post a link to a thread, people will either continue to imply that the claim we saw it happen is either a lie, or at best an overreaction.  This is a no win at this point.  Maybe, just by raising the issue, it means it is less likely to happen in the future.  I hope so.</blockquote>

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