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<blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 607859" data-attributes="member: 6239">Imunity to death attacks and energy drain.The ability to heal yourself easily as a wizard.If this was only a question of improved meta-magic, I think it would have been errata'd.&nbsp; I would still take this class without it.&nbsp; Then again, without improved meta-magic Archmage, Arcane Disciple and Red Wizard look a lot more appealing.UNDERpowered?&nbsp; What?&nbsp; From where I sit, any PrC that grants +1 spellcaster level for each level of the PrC plus anything I would find useful is better than straight wizard or sorc.&nbsp; Screw the familiar, they can't take the nasty hits and are not that useful.&nbsp; Even if you keep going wiz or sorc, your familar doesn't gain that much.&nbsp; Scry on familiar?&nbsp; No thanks, I'll just buy the crystal ball for 42,000.Slightly off topic: how are you going to abuse Geomancer?&nbsp; A sorc/cleric with armor of command?&nbsp; I have seen and used far more abuses with Incantantrix than Geomancer.&nbsp; S&amp;F wasn't broken, it brought up the fighters to the level of the tricked out mage or cleric.&nbsp; MotW?&nbsp; For what, Blighter, Oozemaster, and Windrider?&nbsp; I have seen more abuses from DotF, from items like armor of command and armor of speed, to prestiege domains like celerity, to templar granting weapon specialization, the only real reason to go with fighter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LokiDR, post: 607859, member: 6239"] Imunity to death attacks and energy drain. The ability to heal yourself easily as a wizard. If this was only a question of improved meta-magic, I think it would have been errata'd. I would still take this class without it. Then again, without improved meta-magic Archmage, Arcane Disciple and Red Wizard look a lot more appealing. UNDERpowered? What? From where I sit, any PrC that grants +1 spellcaster level for each level of the PrC plus anything I would find useful is better than straight wizard or sorc. Screw the familiar, they can't take the nasty hits and are not that useful. Even if you keep going wiz or sorc, your familar doesn't gain that much. Scry on familiar? No thanks, I'll just buy the crystal ball for 42,000. Slightly off topic: how are you going to abuse Geomancer? A sorc/cleric with armor of command? I have seen and used far more abuses with Incantantrix than Geomancer. S&F wasn't broken, it brought up the fighters to the level of the tricked out mage or cleric. MotW? For what, Blighter, Oozemaster, and Windrider? I have seen more abuses from DotF, from items like armor of command and armor of speed, to prestiege domains like celerity, to templar granting weapon specialization, the only real reason to go with fighter. [/QUOTE]

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