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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 608221" data-attributes="member: 78">Actually, Iron Will isn't really a burn feat for wizards.&nbsp; Let's take a hypothetical 9th level wizard with 14 WIS.&nbsp; His Will save is +8.&nbsp; Against something like a Mind Blast, he needs an 11.&nbsp; His save isn't so high that can't benefit from Iron Will.&nbsp; However, this wizard isn't stupid - he could have a 24 INT with magical aid - so he crafts himself a Cloak of Resistance +3.&nbsp; His Will save becomes +11.&nbsp;&nbsp; That's pretty good odds, but I'd want better if I was gambling with my life.&nbsp; Also, there's the matter of NPC casters instead of monsters.&nbsp; His 3rd level spells are DC 20 and his best ones are DC 22.&nbsp; While the enemy wizard might decide that a 50% chance of success isn't worth a 5th level, the target couldn't be too confident either.However, we're talking about FR stuff.&nbsp; The enemy wizard could have Greater Spell Focus, SCP, etc.&nbsp; The DC on the Dominate just jumped to 27.&nbsp; Now there's a 75% chance that you'll be a nice slave.&nbsp; And we aren't even including other prestige classes.&nbsp; Both the Iron Will feat and the reinforced Will save will be very neccessary.Immunity to death effects and level draining is a great feature, as it shuts down almost the entire necromancy school.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Victim, post: 608221, member: 78"] Actually, Iron Will isn't really a burn feat for wizards. Let's take a hypothetical 9th level wizard with 14 WIS. His Will save is +8. Against something like a Mind Blast, he needs an 11. His save isn't so high that can't benefit from Iron Will. However, this wizard isn't stupid - he could have a 24 INT with magical aid - so he crafts himself a Cloak of Resistance +3. His Will save becomes +11. That's pretty good odds, but I'd want better if I was gambling with my life. Also, there's the matter of NPC casters instead of monsters. His 3rd level spells are DC 20 and his best ones are DC 22. While the enemy wizard might decide that a 50% chance of success isn't worth a 5th level, the target couldn't be too confident either. However, we're talking about FR stuff. The enemy wizard could have Greater Spell Focus, SCP, etc. The DC on the Dominate just jumped to 27. Now there's a 75% chance that you'll be a nice slave. And we aren't even including other prestige classes. Both the Iron Will feat and the reinforced Will save will be very neccessary. Immunity to death effects and level draining is a great feature, as it shuts down almost the entire necromancy school. [/QUOTE]

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