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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7346559" data-attributes="member: 6795602">A fighter at level 5 that uses the dual wield style as it compares most closely with a monk gets.1.&nbsp; 2 attacks and a bonus attack all at about a d6+4 damage just like the monk.&nbsp; They both can do this without spending any additional resources2.&nbsp; 2 extra attacks per short rest with action surge3.&nbsp; 4 superiority dice that grant about 1d8 extra damage (similar enough in damage output to an extra attack)Monks get.1.&nbsp; 2 attacks and a bonus attack all at about d6+4 damage just like the fighter.2.&nbsp; Flurry of blows to add an extra bonus action attack.&nbsp; Can be used 5 times per short rest.Dual wield fighters get the equivalent of about 6 extra attacks per short rest.&nbsp; Monks get the equivalent of about 5 extra attacks per short rest.Now in your scenario the monk is going to get:10 extra attacks per short restThe fighter gets 6 extra attacks per short rest.The monk has less hp for higher movement, a free ranged damage reduction ability, some baked in versatility from stunning strike (a very important ability) and the ability to use ki to bonus action dodge etc.&nbsp; The monks subclass further adds versatility (free knockdowns or ability to cast useful spells with ki points etc).&nbsp; The fighter has more hp, about the same ac a decent self heal and a few effects from his superiority dice.&nbsp; All in all a two weapon fighting fighter looks very equivalent to a normal monk IMO.&nbsp; Your monk changes tip everything in the monks favor IMO.&nbsp; Though it does make stunning strike less of a must use and more of a tradeoff.&nbsp; Non-dual wield fighters probably fare better against the monk as there are more abilities and feats that play nice with those styles.&nbsp; If that's your concern then your change probably isn't hurting anything.&nbsp; Just keep in mind that ki scales really well into later levels.&nbsp; You may want to look at your monk at level 11 or 14 compared to a fighter to see how things compare at that point.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7346559, member: 6795602"] A fighter at level 5 that uses the dual wield style as it compares most closely with a monk gets. 1. 2 attacks and a bonus attack all at about a d6+4 damage just like the monk. They both can do this without spending any additional resources 2. 2 extra attacks per short rest with action surge 3. 4 superiority dice that grant about 1d8 extra damage (similar enough in damage output to an extra attack) Monks get. 1. 2 attacks and a bonus attack all at about d6+4 damage just like the fighter. 2. Flurry of blows to add an extra bonus action attack. Can be used 5 times per short rest. Dual wield fighters get the equivalent of about 6 extra attacks per short rest. Monks get the equivalent of about 5 extra attacks per short rest. Now in your scenario the monk is going to get: 10 extra attacks per short rest The fighter gets 6 extra attacks per short rest. The monk has less hp for higher movement, a free ranged damage reduction ability, some baked in versatility from stunning strike (a very important ability) and the ability to use ki to bonus action dodge etc. The monks subclass further adds versatility (free knockdowns or ability to cast useful spells with ki points etc). The fighter has more hp, about the same ac a decent self heal and a few effects from his superiority dice. All in all a two weapon fighting fighter looks very equivalent to a normal monk IMO. Your monk changes tip everything in the monks favor IMO. Though it does make stunning strike less of a must use and more of a tradeoff. Non-dual wield fighters probably fare better against the monk as there are more abilities and feats that play nice with those styles. If that's your concern then your change probably isn't hurting anything. Just keep in mind that ki scales really well into later levels. You may want to look at your monk at level 11 or 14 compared to a fighter to see how things compare at that point. [/QUOTE]

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