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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8070480" data-attributes="member: 5889">1)1) i would go with 11 + prof + dex or wis. That will give you the expected scaling (people keep looking at 16 dex 16 wis monks as the norm, so we want to keep that baseline).Ive also considered the following:10 + dex (or str) + wis. str is the old “iron shirt” technique, and would allow for the grappling monk archetype more easily.2) this certainly one way to go about it. Another is to&nbsp; also allow patient defense to trigger off a reaction to an attack roll or reflex save.that way when you spend ki for it, you know your getting some benefit for it.a third option for people that want the ability to be more “active”, you can add this in.“You may use athletics to make a trip or grapple attempt against an opponent who misses you while using patient defense”.3) completely agree. Simple remove the armor restriction from speed and martial arts. I can understand the shield at least, but there is no reason a monk can’t be cool in armor if they sacrifice the feat or multiclasa for it...it’s silly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8070480, member: 5889"] 1) 1) i would go with 11 + prof + dex or wis. That will give you the expected scaling (people keep looking at 16 dex 16 wis monks as the norm, so we want to keep that baseline). Ive also considered the following: 10 + dex (or str) + wis. str is the old “iron shirt” technique, and would allow for the grappling monk archetype more easily. 2) this certainly one way to go about it. Another is to also allow patient defense to trigger off a reaction to an attack roll or reflex save. that way when you spend ki for it, you know your getting some benefit for it. a third option for people that want the ability to be more “active”, you can add this in. “You may use athletics to make a trip or grapple attempt against an opponent who misses you while using patient defense”. 3) completely agree. Simple remove the armor restriction from speed and martial arts. I can understand the shield at least, but there is no reason a monk can’t be cool in armor if they sacrifice the feat or multiclasa for it...it’s silly. [/QUOTE]

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