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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5119652" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>Don’t do VoP, it’s a trap and a waste of 2 feats. You do not need VoP to take Intuitive Attack, you just need to be exalted (and good). If you insist on it, no exceptions: Nymph’s Kiss as your level 1 bonus exalted feat. Touch of Golden Ice is also amazing, take that early. if the DM allows made up exalted feats, my group made up one called Piety. Lets you use Wis instead of Cha to meet exalted feat pre-reqs, since many require high charisma, a worthless stat for you.</p><p></p><p>Why Throw Anything? It’s not good at all on its own (you can throw clubs proficiently already, and those can be sticks off the ground). Maybe it’s nice with Drunken Master or Bloodstorm Blade (latter gives it for free anyway).</p><p></p><p>Do you have access to Tome of Battle? A swordsage multiclass with the monk could be good, especially with Setting Sun discipline throws and counters for some of your maneuvers and the Setting Sun monk multiclass feat in that book. If your DM doesn’t allow you to re-enter monk after leaving, you could pick Illumian (Races of Destiny) as your race, they can freely multiclass monk and/or paladin with other classes and go back.</p><p></p><p>Spring Attack: Again, going into Swordsage a little helps tons. Then you can easily qualify for Desert Wind Dodge (ToB), which counts as Dodge for pre-reqs, but gives +1 AC against all enemies. You just need to move 10 or more ft on your turn to “activate” it. Also helpful is the Mobility enhancement from Magic Item Compendium, a +1 armor enhancement (can only be placed on light armor) that gives you the Mobility feat. …Did I mention yet that you should dump Vow of Poverty? Now, WotC has said you can put armor properties on bracers of armor, so it’d be a DM call to let it count as “light armor” (seems reasonable). If the DM does not agree to that, Swordsage AGAIN to the rescue! At level 2, Swordsage gains Wis to AC, like a monk. It does not stack however, because you only gain it while wearing light armor. Not no armor, strictly light armor (also can’t use shields). So, if you needed to wear light armor to get Mobility, Swordsage at least has you covered still for wis to AC.</p><p></p><p>Swordsage also let you use a bunch of standard action strike maneuvers which makes the tradeoff of no flurry of blows less painful if you want to hit and run. Also, one of the first level maneuvers you can pick up, Sudden Leap, lets you jump as a swift action, potentially allowing you to close to the enemy and flurry of blows on him in the same turn.</p><p></p><p>Tome of Battle also has the Snap Kick feat, which I think is a great deal. For -2 on all attacks, you can get an additional unarmed attack at your highest BAB (the snap kick only gains half str bonus on damage, notably). This isn’t just useful for extra flurrying goodness. Snap Kick explicitly says you can attach it to ANY attack action. Use it after a charge. Use it on a readied attack. Use it with a strike maneuver. Use it on your attack during Spring Attack. It’s possibly the only ability in the game to always get an extra attack if you’re willing to eat the -2 penalty. Most others only work on a full attack.</p><p></p><p>Other major feat suggestion I really must plug is Improved Natural Attack (unarmed strike). Monks (and only monks) explicitly get to count their unarmed strike as a natural weapon. As soon as you qualify, it’s probably the best feat you could possibly take.</p><p></p><p>[sblock]Unrelated question: Can you block IE or all browsers from treating "accidentally click onto page outside text box" + "hitting backspace" = "OMFG my post! You bastards!" Cause I totally lost like 10 minutes of typing due to that, and it really pissed me off. I hover over IE's backpage key and it says "Alt + Left." You'd think they could at least tell you that merely hitting backspace equals doom.[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5119652, member: 35909"] Don’t do VoP, it’s a trap and a waste of 2 feats. You do not need VoP to take Intuitive Attack, you just need to be exalted (and good). If you insist on it, no exceptions: Nymph’s Kiss as your level 1 bonus exalted feat. Touch of Golden Ice is also amazing, take that early. if the DM allows made up exalted feats, my group made up one called Piety. Lets you use Wis instead of Cha to meet exalted feat pre-reqs, since many require high charisma, a worthless stat for you. Why Throw Anything? It’s not good at all on its own (you can throw clubs proficiently already, and those can be sticks off the ground). Maybe it’s nice with Drunken Master or Bloodstorm Blade (latter gives it for free anyway). Do you have access to Tome of Battle? A swordsage multiclass with the monk could be good, especially with Setting Sun discipline throws and counters for some of your maneuvers and the Setting Sun monk multiclass feat in that book. If your DM doesn’t allow you to re-enter monk after leaving, you could pick Illumian (Races of Destiny) as your race, they can freely multiclass monk and/or paladin with other classes and go back. Spring Attack: Again, going into Swordsage a little helps tons. Then you can easily qualify for Desert Wind Dodge (ToB), which counts as Dodge for pre-reqs, but gives +1 AC against all enemies. You just need to move 10 or more ft on your turn to “activate” it. Also helpful is the Mobility enhancement from Magic Item Compendium, a +1 armor enhancement (can only be placed on light armor) that gives you the Mobility feat. …Did I mention yet that you should dump Vow of Poverty? Now, WotC has said you can put armor properties on bracers of armor, so it’d be a DM call to let it count as “light armor” (seems reasonable). If the DM does not agree to that, Swordsage AGAIN to the rescue! At level 2, Swordsage gains Wis to AC, like a monk. It does not stack however, because you only gain it while wearing light armor. Not no armor, strictly light armor (also can’t use shields). So, if you needed to wear light armor to get Mobility, Swordsage at least has you covered still for wis to AC. Swordsage also let you use a bunch of standard action strike maneuvers which makes the tradeoff of no flurry of blows less painful if you want to hit and run. Also, one of the first level maneuvers you can pick up, Sudden Leap, lets you jump as a swift action, potentially allowing you to close to the enemy and flurry of blows on him in the same turn. Tome of Battle also has the Snap Kick feat, which I think is a great deal. For -2 on all attacks, you can get an additional unarmed attack at your highest BAB (the snap kick only gains half str bonus on damage, notably). This isn’t just useful for extra flurrying goodness. Snap Kick explicitly says you can attach it to ANY attack action. Use it after a charge. Use it on a readied attack. Use it with a strike maneuver. Use it on your attack during Spring Attack. It’s possibly the only ability in the game to always get an extra attack if you’re willing to eat the -2 penalty. Most others only work on a full attack. Other major feat suggestion I really must plug is Improved Natural Attack (unarmed strike). Monks (and only monks) explicitly get to count their unarmed strike as a natural weapon. As soon as you qualify, it’s probably the best feat you could possibly take. [sblock]Unrelated question: Can you block IE or all browsers from treating "accidentally click onto page outside text box" + "hitting backspace" = "OMFG my post! You bastards!" Cause I totally lost like 10 minutes of typing due to that, and it really pissed me off. I hover over IE's backpage key and it says "Alt + Left." You'd think they could at least tell you that merely hitting backspace equals doom.[/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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