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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 4782260" data-attributes="member: 4722">I specifically chose a non-monkish weapon because if you were using, say, a kama, it would be considered part of the flurry.That's circular logic. "It doesn't say we can't do it, therefore we can." Most DMs hand-wave proficiency with the club, even though it's listed as a simple weapon - it's not that hard to swing a large piece of wood.PHB, page 143: Full Round Actions. "A full round action requires an entire round to complete. Thus, it can't be coupled with a standard or a move action, though if it does not involve moving any distance, you can take a 5-foot step." Full attack is listed there. Therefore, it takes up the entire round.Um... ALL characters are proficient with unarmed strike - it's a natural weapon, and all creatures are automatically proficient with their natural weapons. A monk (or anyone else who takes the IUS feat), however, is the only one who can deal lethal damage and thus make armed attacks instead of unarmed ones. Maybe they're listed there because they don't fit anywhere else. Unarmed strike is also listed there, but all characters are automatically proficient in it.That's because they're area of effect weapons, like grenades - you only need to get a grenade close to the target for it to be effective.I agree with the first part, but I'm not sold on the second. If they're both full-round actions, it doesn't make much sense to me that they could be combined. That's putting a pretty fine point on it.</blockquote>

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