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<blockquote data-quote="shai-hulud" data-source="post: 3352031" data-attributes="member: 49973"><p>That is rather regardless. The wording of Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting does not indicate which hand is making the attacks. To quote the SRD, "You can make as many attacks with your off-hand weapon as with your primary weapon, using the same base attack bonus. You still take the normal penalties for fighting with two weapons." So if you make six attacks with a flurry of blows, that is six attacks with your primary weapon. Since with flurry of blows, you can interchange weapons and have it still count as you primary weapon (this gets into the rules for primary and secondary attacks, which are rather complicated), one could even include a Shuriken, which would allow the monk to use Rapid Shot to add an additional attack with his primary weapon. His primary weapon, in this case, would be his flurry of blows. If you are proposing an alternative interpretation, I would have to disagree that it would go against the intent of the Flurry.</p><p></p><p>I say this because the intent of the Flurry of blows seems to be to allow the monk to make more attacks than a fighter (He gets five attacks per round by 15th level compared to a fighter's four attacks per round at 16th level). This seems to indicate that by design, a monk should receive more attacks per round than a fighter. If we go by that guideline, then an epic monk should have more attacks than an epic fighter. An epic fighter with perfect two-weapon fighting can make eight attacks per round. An epic monk (by your interpretation) would gain no benefit whatsoever from Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting (unless he interspersed levels of a class with a good base attack bonus before becoming epic). Therefore, he, too, would have eight attacks per round. This seems counter to the nature of the monk class (which should receive more attacks than a fighter).</p><p></p><p>So, if you allow all attacks to count for Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting, a 21st level monk with Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting gains five off-hand attacks when making a flurry of blows attack and using Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting. Now, a monk that has taken enough levels of a class with a Good Base Attack Bonus progression can make six attacks by the time he reaches 11th level monk. This should allow him the special advantage of making six off-hand attacks (because of his unique class selection). </p><p></p><p>A thri-kreen, however, takes multi-weapon fighting instead of two-weapon fighting. Perfect Multi-weapon Fighting would be affected in the same way as Two-Weapon Fighting. So, the monk in question instead has either 24 or 30 attacks per round, rather than the 16 he would have as a fighter. (I am ignoring the bite attack for the time being). I am not certain if it is 24 or 30 attacks per round because once again, if he is wielding four weapons and makes only unarmed strikes for his flurry of blows, all four limbs should be available for off-hand attacks.</p><p></p><p>Now, I am discounting the possibility of using Rapid Shot to gain additional attacks, but a monk with Rapid Shot and Quick Draw may be able to make even more attacks per round (this one is very debatable, though). A monk can throw a shuriken for his first attack, which would allow him to throw another shuriken as a rapid shot. This would give him an extra attack with his primary weapon. Now the wording for Perfect Multiweapon Fighting is such that this would grant him ANOTHER attack with EACH off-hand weapon!!! That one seems like it should be avoided, as it goes against the nature of the feat, but one could definitely argue that because of the wording of the feat, even that attack applies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shai-hulud, post: 3352031, member: 49973"] That is rather regardless. The wording of Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting does not indicate which hand is making the attacks. To quote the SRD, "You can make as many attacks with your off-hand weapon as with your primary weapon, using the same base attack bonus. You still take the normal penalties for fighting with two weapons." So if you make six attacks with a flurry of blows, that is six attacks with your primary weapon. Since with flurry of blows, you can interchange weapons and have it still count as you primary weapon (this gets into the rules for primary and secondary attacks, which are rather complicated), one could even include a Shuriken, which would allow the monk to use Rapid Shot to add an additional attack with his primary weapon. His primary weapon, in this case, would be his flurry of blows. If you are proposing an alternative interpretation, I would have to disagree that it would go against the intent of the Flurry. I say this because the intent of the Flurry of blows seems to be to allow the monk to make more attacks than a fighter (He gets five attacks per round by 15th level compared to a fighter's four attacks per round at 16th level). This seems to indicate that by design, a monk should receive more attacks per round than a fighter. If we go by that guideline, then an epic monk should have more attacks than an epic fighter. An epic fighter with perfect two-weapon fighting can make eight attacks per round. An epic monk (by your interpretation) would gain no benefit whatsoever from Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting (unless he interspersed levels of a class with a good base attack bonus before becoming epic). Therefore, he, too, would have eight attacks per round. This seems counter to the nature of the monk class (which should receive more attacks than a fighter). So, if you allow all attacks to count for Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting, a 21st level monk with Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting gains five off-hand attacks when making a flurry of blows attack and using Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting. Now, a monk that has taken enough levels of a class with a Good Base Attack Bonus progression can make six attacks by the time he reaches 11th level monk. This should allow him the special advantage of making six off-hand attacks (because of his unique class selection). A thri-kreen, however, takes multi-weapon fighting instead of two-weapon fighting. Perfect Multi-weapon Fighting would be affected in the same way as Two-Weapon Fighting. So, the monk in question instead has either 24 or 30 attacks per round, rather than the 16 he would have as a fighter. (I am ignoring the bite attack for the time being). I am not certain if it is 24 or 30 attacks per round because once again, if he is wielding four weapons and makes only unarmed strikes for his flurry of blows, all four limbs should be available for off-hand attacks. Now, I am discounting the possibility of using Rapid Shot to gain additional attacks, but a monk with Rapid Shot and Quick Draw may be able to make even more attacks per round (this one is very debatable, though). A monk can throw a shuriken for his first attack, which would allow him to throw another shuriken as a rapid shot. This would give him an extra attack with his primary weapon. Now the wording for Perfect Multiweapon Fighting is such that this would grant him ANOTHER attack with EACH off-hand weapon!!! That one seems like it should be avoided, as it goes against the nature of the feat, but one could definitely argue that because of the wording of the feat, even that attack applies. [/QUOTE]
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