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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 1938789" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>The description for Flurry of Blows clearly states, multiple times, that the monk cannot use any weapons in that attack sequence except for special monk weapons. No tanglefoot bags or whatnot. Doesn't matter if some of the PC's feats give them extra attacks, because they can only use the Flurry of Blows ability when they attack with nothing but unarmed strikes and special monk weapons.</p><p></p><p>Accidentally poisoning yourself when applying poison to a weapon does not prevent the weapon from being poisoned.</p><p></p><p>The Leadership feat's cohort and followers are nothing like the Summon Monster spell. NPCs from the Leadership feat gain experience points and live and die normally. They are not summoned by magic, they are separate characters. There is no reason to infer that the Leadership feat's NPCs don't count against CR/EXP/EL. Would you not count a Dominated 20th-level Fighter who is controlled by a mind flayer's psionic abilities? Of course you would count them, even though Dominate Person and such are spell effects, they just give the user control over one or more PCs/NPCs, and they don't stop those characters from being individual PCs/NPCs with real experience-gain and levels et al. The Summon Monster spells are balanced against other spells (supposedly), but Leadership is a special feat that is under the DM's purview and is far more powerful than other feats unless its user has abysmal CHA and useless cohorts/followers. Ooh, ooh, I know! Next let's throw a dozen large venomous vipers into a pit trap and say they don't count towards the CR just because they didn't put themselves there! j/k</p><p></p><p>Cohorts and followers count normally towards CR, even if they do nothing but buff up their leader beforehand. Only if they do absolutely nothing for the fight do they give no CR+.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 1938789, member: 13966"] The description for Flurry of Blows clearly states, multiple times, that the monk cannot use any weapons in that attack sequence except for special monk weapons. No tanglefoot bags or whatnot. Doesn't matter if some of the PC's feats give them extra attacks, because they can only use the Flurry of Blows ability when they attack with nothing but unarmed strikes and special monk weapons. Accidentally poisoning yourself when applying poison to a weapon does not prevent the weapon from being poisoned. The Leadership feat's cohort and followers are nothing like the Summon Monster spell. NPCs from the Leadership feat gain experience points and live and die normally. They are not summoned by magic, they are separate characters. There is no reason to infer that the Leadership feat's NPCs don't count against CR/EXP/EL. Would you not count a Dominated 20th-level Fighter who is controlled by a mind flayer's psionic abilities? Of course you would count them, even though Dominate Person and such are spell effects, they just give the user control over one or more PCs/NPCs, and they don't stop those characters from being individual PCs/NPCs with real experience-gain and levels et al. The Summon Monster spells are balanced against other spells (supposedly), but Leadership is a special feat that is under the DM's purview and is far more powerful than other feats unless its user has abysmal CHA and useless cohorts/followers. Ooh, ooh, I know! Next let's throw a dozen large venomous vipers into a pit trap and say they don't count towards the CR just because they didn't put themselves there! j/k Cohorts and followers count normally towards CR, even if they do nothing but buff up their leader beforehand. Only if they do absolutely nothing for the fight do they give no CR+. [/QUOTE]
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