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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8831579" data-attributes="member: 93670">[spoiler=&quot;Yes it does&quot;]At 1st level, your practice of martial arts gives you mastery of com bat styles that use unarm ed strikes and monk weapons, which are shortswords and any simple melee weapons that don’t have the two-handed or heavy property.'Versatile. This weapon can be used with one or two hands. A damage value in parentheses appears with the property—the damage when the weapon is used with two hands to make a melee attack.[/spoiler]5e got rid of technical writing in favor of natural language.&nbsp; I believe the phrase is [ispoiler]&quot;any time the rules are unclear aadjudication is left to the GM's discretion&quot;[/ispoiler]I didn't factor in flurry because the numbers were showing at will &amp; the option to use flurry/stunning strike/etc needlessly complicates a discussion when the complaint is simply that damage &quot;takes forever to get reasonable&quot; rather than focusing on nondamage things those other abilities are lacking.&nbsp; Since the push now seems to be focused on the plight of monks who choose not to use one of their no cost at will class abilities not dealing enough damage compared to any other class who does can we move on to the critical plight of red dragon sorcerers who don't deal enough damage with ice magic to compete with other casters who make an effort to use their abilities?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8831579, member: 93670"] [spoiler="Yes it does"]At 1st level, your practice of martial arts gives you mastery of com bat styles that use unarm ed strikes and monk weapons, which are shortswords and any s[B]imple melee weapons that don’t have the two-handed [/B]or heavy property.' Versatile. [B]This weapon can be used with one or two hands.[/B] A damage value in parentheses appears with the property—the damage when the weapon is used with two hands to make a melee attack. [/spoiler] 5e got rid of technical writing in favor of natural language. I believe the phrase is [ispoiler][I]"any time the rules are unclear aadjudication is left to the GM's discretion"[/I][/ispoiler] I didn't factor in flurry because the numbers were showing at will & the option to use flurry/stunning strike/etc needlessly complicates a discussion when the complaint is simply that damage "takes forever to get reasonable" rather than focusing on nondamage things those other abilities are lacking. Since the push now seems to be focused on the plight of monks who choose not to use one of their no cost at will class abilities not dealing enough damage compared to any other class who does can we move on to the critical plight of red dragon sorcerers who don't deal enough damage with ice magic to compete with other casters who make an effort to use their abilities? [/QUOTE]

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