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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Morris" data-source="post: 683963" data-attributes="member: 87"><p>With the enchanted fist ability the character should not have problems penatrating DR. If you take the Energy substitution feat from <em>Tome & Blood</em> and the Yarenic's Flame Weapon spell that combination alone builds up a character with the ability to make their fists deal the damage type best suited to any situation. Greater Magic weapon insures that there is no plus based DR that the character won't be able to bypass, and once material based DR's appear in 3.5e I'm sure that a character of this class could make a 3rd or 4th level spell to polymorph his hands into just the right material. Never forget that the spell ability of the class itself is a potent weapon. Who needs the quivering palm ability when, eventually, you can use finger of death.</p><p></p><p>When I set up the skills I was trying to stick to the essentials for each of the two source classes and stay with a sorcerer's 2 skills / level. That alone constrains how many skills the character has.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. That BAB is not a typo. It was first used in Sword & Fist. Since there isn't a +0 entry to start it helps keep the character's BAB within 1 of what a normal monk's BAB would be.</p><p></p><p>Well, for the last couple days I had been reasoning that my ideas need to be split into 2 prestige classes, one focused on the arcane, one more focused on intrigue and stealth.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The class smells like ninja. It's fine on its own merits, but it's getting out of the focus area of the campaign setting itself. The Listralans are not assassins out for hire. They are a reclusive bunch who would be happy to be left alone. The order does not condone or engage in affairs of this world - they are preoccupied in self perfection for the next. While having a monk / sorcerer prestige class is fine since it can meld into this self perfection goal - albeit with a new twist. Sort of like oranges and grapefruit. But branching out to an spy class is not in the spirt of the Listralan order, and since their order is the only one with the monk class this precludes the inclusion of this prestige class into the Dusk setting (At least officially. You can use it with your own games if you like of course).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Morris, post: 683963, member: 87"] With the enchanted fist ability the character should not have problems penatrating DR. If you take the Energy substitution feat from [i]Tome & Blood[/i] and the Yarenic's Flame Weapon spell that combination alone builds up a character with the ability to make their fists deal the damage type best suited to any situation. Greater Magic weapon insures that there is no plus based DR that the character won't be able to bypass, and once material based DR's appear in 3.5e I'm sure that a character of this class could make a 3rd or 4th level spell to polymorph his hands into just the right material. Never forget that the spell ability of the class itself is a potent weapon. Who needs the quivering palm ability when, eventually, you can use finger of death. When I set up the skills I was trying to stick to the essentials for each of the two source classes and stay with a sorcerer's 2 skills / level. That alone constrains how many skills the character has. Yes. That BAB is not a typo. It was first used in Sword & Fist. Since there isn't a +0 entry to start it helps keep the character's BAB within 1 of what a normal monk's BAB would be. Well, for the last couple days I had been reasoning that my ideas need to be split into 2 prestige classes, one focused on the arcane, one more focused on intrigue and stealth. The class smells like ninja. It's fine on its own merits, but it's getting out of the focus area of the campaign setting itself. The Listralans are not assassins out for hire. They are a reclusive bunch who would be happy to be left alone. The order does not condone or engage in affairs of this world - they are preoccupied in self perfection for the next. While having a monk / sorcerer prestige class is fine since it can meld into this self perfection goal - albeit with a new twist. Sort of like oranges and grapefruit. But branching out to an spy class is not in the spirt of the Listralan order, and since their order is the only one with the monk class this precludes the inclusion of this prestige class into the Dusk setting (At least officially. You can use it with your own games if you like of course). [/QUOTE]
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