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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Morris" data-source="post: 686155" data-attributes="member: 87"><p>Maybe so. However, let me again repeat myself - the Listralan order's association with the monk class was coined as a way to allow the class to have a place in the campaign. Personally I would have rathered the monk not have been in the PHB at all because they have no place in European legends and adventures. Their place is in Oriental Adventures. That is my opinion on that matter.</p><p></p><p>Early in the setup of Dusk 3e I decided that I would make it possible to use as much of the PHB as possible while keeping the setting to its early medieval tech level and theme. For the longest time I thought the monk class would have to be discarded in its entirety until someone ( I forget who ) mentioned they would be an excellent match for the Listralans. After much personal debate I agreed, so the Listralans gave the monks a window into the setting that makes sense and doesn't add too much of an oriental influence.</p><p></p><p>Adding a single monk based prestige class built upon something I had mentioned in passing is one thing, but coining multiple monk prestige classes is quite another. Further, the Listralans are not an organization of widespread influence and power. The Estarian cell *might* number a hundred. The Telzoan cell is slightly larger at 150. This is not a group that has the resources to lead widespread innuendos. A single Listralan might act as a spy, but their is no group of them that acts so.</p><p></p><p>That is how I feel. If you wish to add them to your game, then do so - It's not my place to try to stop you. It is my place, however, to decide what is and is not appropriate for the setting as presented on the website. I try to keep an open mind to new ideas, but sometimes I have to act as filter and say no - even though I find this task unpleasant. </p><p></p><p>Too many times settings have been diluted and robbed of focus by the very groups that loved them too much. The <em>Forgotten Realms</em> is the worst offender in this manner, followed quickly by <em>Greyhawk</em>. With two well made poupouri worlds available, I do not feel it necessary to build a third. </p><p></p><p>While I realize that this sometimes autocratic attitude of mine has turned many people away from writing for the setting, it may be - for better or worse - the setting's only unique trait for one its size: It is guided by a single person and not by a committee.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Morris, post: 686155, member: 87"] Maybe so. However, let me again repeat myself - the Listralan order's association with the monk class was coined as a way to allow the class to have a place in the campaign. Personally I would have rathered the monk not have been in the PHB at all because they have no place in European legends and adventures. Their place is in Oriental Adventures. That is my opinion on that matter. Early in the setup of Dusk 3e I decided that I would make it possible to use as much of the PHB as possible while keeping the setting to its early medieval tech level and theme. For the longest time I thought the monk class would have to be discarded in its entirety until someone ( I forget who ) mentioned they would be an excellent match for the Listralans. After much personal debate I agreed, so the Listralans gave the monks a window into the setting that makes sense and doesn't add too much of an oriental influence. Adding a single monk based prestige class built upon something I had mentioned in passing is one thing, but coining multiple monk prestige classes is quite another. Further, the Listralans are not an organization of widespread influence and power. The Estarian cell *might* number a hundred. The Telzoan cell is slightly larger at 150. This is not a group that has the resources to lead widespread innuendos. A single Listralan might act as a spy, but their is no group of them that acts so. That is how I feel. If you wish to add them to your game, then do so - It's not my place to try to stop you. It is my place, however, to decide what is and is not appropriate for the setting as presented on the website. I try to keep an open mind to new ideas, but sometimes I have to act as filter and say no - even though I find this task unpleasant. Too many times settings have been diluted and robbed of focus by the very groups that loved them too much. The [i]Forgotten Realms[/i] is the worst offender in this manner, followed quickly by [i]Greyhawk[/i]. With two well made poupouri worlds available, I do not feel it necessary to build a third. While I realize that this sometimes autocratic attitude of mine has turned many people away from writing for the setting, it may be - for better or worse - the setting's only unique trait for one its size: It is guided by a single person and not by a committee. [/QUOTE]
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