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Monk: The Past, Present, and Questionable Future of an Iconic Class
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9072681" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>I am talking about starting with an 18 Strength and 17 Dex or similar. When I say great at both, I mean as good or better than a point-buy build that is focused on one of them.</p><p></p><p>I agree about the face Fighter Face, although you are compromising a lot on point buy to do it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed. This is the point though. If your rolls are 8/8/8/10/12/14 you are not really going to be able to do an effective Monk or Barbarian at all. With careful subclass selection, you will be able to do a pretty effective single class Ranger or Paladin, even though they are MAD classes, but they are going to play very different than a default Paladin or Ranger.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It can be done, but I think it is difficult. with 6 proficiencies, 2 expertise and possible racial proficiencies, you can do a lot with the Rogue chassis. but if you dumped intelligence and wisdom and you are rolling expertise into charisma, that is going to be a difficult Rogue in play I think, or to put it another way it won't play like a point-buy Rogue with a good Charisma and expertise in Charisma skills.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is a very marginalized build I think and one that is going to be a lot different in play than a Rogue Face with point buy who has genuinely good perception.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9072681, member: 7030563"] I am talking about starting with an 18 Strength and 17 Dex or similar. When I say great at both, I mean as good or better than a point-buy build that is focused on one of them. I agree about the face Fighter Face, although you are compromising a lot on point buy to do it. Agreed. This is the point though. If your rolls are 8/8/8/10/12/14 you are not really going to be able to do an effective Monk or Barbarian at all. With careful subclass selection, you will be able to do a pretty effective single class Ranger or Paladin, even though they are MAD classes, but they are going to play very different than a default Paladin or Ranger. It can be done, but I think it is difficult. with 6 proficiencies, 2 expertise and possible racial proficiencies, you can do a lot with the Rogue chassis. but if you dumped intelligence and wisdom and you are rolling expertise into charisma, that is going to be a difficult Rogue in play I think, or to put it another way it won't play like a point-buy Rogue with a good Charisma and expertise in Charisma skills. That is a very marginalized build I think and one that is going to be a lot different in play than a Rogue Face with point buy who has genuinely good perception. [/QUOTE]
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