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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7633524" data-attributes="member: 20564">Considering that most games are played in Tier 1 &amp; 2, that means that for 80% of the character's time spent played it's greater or equal.&nbsp; Also, characters are their most fragile at low levels, when you have tghe greatest AC advantage.&nbsp; Taken together that does sounds like a significant benefit.Also, in order to do that you are locking into taking ASIs for DEX and WIS.&nbsp; A Tortle could take feats if they wanted to. Also, a Tortle could play a STR (&amp; WIS) monk, which normally could not be done because of their AC.&nbsp; Which opens up grappling and other fun things.&nbsp; All Martial ares default to STR, you just may you use DEX for them.&nbsp; It's not as great for some things, like deflect arrows, and better at others.The point under discussion, which was monk's unarmored defense and it's interaction with the Tortle's AC - other classes wielding shields is not in in scope.&nbsp; The monk can't use a shield without losing Martial Arts.Citation &quot;most people&quot;.&nbsp; I see people arguing both sides here, and both sides are getting XP from others that agree.&nbsp; There is no majority perception to be claimed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7633524, member: 20564"] Considering that most games are played in Tier 1 & 2, that means that for 80% of the character's time spent played it's greater or equal. Also, characters are their most fragile at low levels, when you have tghe greatest AC advantage. Taken together that does sounds like a significant benefit. Also, in order to do that you are locking into taking ASIs for DEX and WIS. A Tortle could take feats if they wanted to. Also, a Tortle could play a STR (& WIS) monk, which normally could not be done because of their AC. Which opens up grappling and other fun things. All Martial ares default to STR, you just may you use DEX for them. It's not as great for some things, like deflect arrows, and better at others. The point under discussion, which was monk's unarmored defense and it's interaction with the Tortle's AC - other classes wielding shields is not in in scope. The monk can't use a shield without losing Martial Arts. Citation "most people". I see people arguing both sides here, and both sides are getting XP from others that agree. There is no majority perception to be claimed. [/QUOTE]

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