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<blockquote data-quote="ARandomGod" data-source="post: 1606545" data-attributes="member: 17296"><p>Ah, you seem to have missed MY physics point.</p><p>Firstly, we have the issuse of "strength" which I define as the amount of force available, or perhaps velocity.</p><p>(First and a half, I'll acknowledge your point here, or, at least a point I hadn't considered before, which is that of relative mass... or so say the ogre has more swing room, and more weight behind his big, flat fist.)</p><p>Secondly, there is the (my) issue of size.</p><p></p><p>Which is to say that, while mass is important in the equation, it's not as important as velocity (strength). And also, I figure that the damage done by the kenetic energy will be partially cancelled out by the amount to which that kenetic energy is spread out over the object absorbing that energy (the kenetic energy being more spread out should allow more of it to be absorbed harmlessly), and hence the larger mass would be further cancelled out as a greater portion of the blow manages to be absorbed by the target without damage. </p><p></p><p>Now, lets assume equal strength. Say 12, so that the halfling is more likely to have accomplished that. ^_^ </p><p></p><p>Now, take two similiar, but different objects, like a halfling and an ogre. ... </p><p>But, we have to be different to get MY point across, which is the concentration of that force. SO we'll use instead a boat oar and a short sword. Now, swing them both with the same force behind the blow. 12 velocity units. have them both hit the same area... say the stomach. Swing with the same force, I personally believe that the short sword will hit with it's force more concentrated, and therefore hit deeper, and cause more damage. The boat oar will hit just as hard. Will indeed hurt, but the force of the blow will be spread out over the entire stomach, and possibly even beyond, allowing more of the force to be absorbed, and causing less risk.</p><p></p><p>I could be wrong, but this is MY interpretation of the value of strength, versus the value of size. </p><p></p><p>Now for an experiment you can do at home*. You'll need a small neghborhood child, I suggest larger than halfling sized, but much smaller than you. Now, hit the child** as hard as you can with an open hand. As if you were slapping, but remember, full force.</p><p>Then, as a comparison, hit that child with the same force, but a smaller area, a closed fist. Try to determine the difference in damage delt.</p><p></p><p>*But probably shouldn't</p><p>**Once again, you really shouldn't. Think of this instead as a mental project. Unless you're sadistic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ARandomGod, post: 1606545, member: 17296"] Ah, you seem to have missed MY physics point. Firstly, we have the issuse of "strength" which I define as the amount of force available, or perhaps velocity. (First and a half, I'll acknowledge your point here, or, at least a point I hadn't considered before, which is that of relative mass... or so say the ogre has more swing room, and more weight behind his big, flat fist.) Secondly, there is the (my) issue of size. Which is to say that, while mass is important in the equation, it's not as important as velocity (strength). And also, I figure that the damage done by the kenetic energy will be partially cancelled out by the amount to which that kenetic energy is spread out over the object absorbing that energy (the kenetic energy being more spread out should allow more of it to be absorbed harmlessly), and hence the larger mass would be further cancelled out as a greater portion of the blow manages to be absorbed by the target without damage. Now, lets assume equal strength. Say 12, so that the halfling is more likely to have accomplished that. ^_^ Now, take two similiar, but different objects, like a halfling and an ogre. ... But, we have to be different to get MY point across, which is the concentration of that force. SO we'll use instead a boat oar and a short sword. Now, swing them both with the same force behind the blow. 12 velocity units. have them both hit the same area... say the stomach. Swing with the same force, I personally believe that the short sword will hit with it's force more concentrated, and therefore hit deeper, and cause more damage. The boat oar will hit just as hard. Will indeed hurt, but the force of the blow will be spread out over the entire stomach, and possibly even beyond, allowing more of the force to be absorbed, and causing less risk. I could be wrong, but this is MY interpretation of the value of strength, versus the value of size. Now for an experiment you can do at home*. You'll need a small neghborhood child, I suggest larger than halfling sized, but much smaller than you. Now, hit the child** as hard as you can with an open hand. As if you were slapping, but remember, full force. Then, as a comparison, hit that child with the same force, but a smaller area, a closed fist. Try to determine the difference in damage delt. *But probably shouldn't **Once again, you really shouldn't. Think of this instead as a mental project. Unless you're sadistic. [/QUOTE]
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