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<blockquote data-quote="Gnimish88" data-source="post: 1606651" data-attributes="member: 15041"><p>Not having any small children handy, it will indeed have to be a mental exercise. ;-)</p><p></p><p>Your arguments miss more physics. </p><p></p><p>Force = mass X acceleration and is probably not what you are trying to argue here, but even if it is, what follows still applies. A larger object that hits with the same energy or force as a smaller object moves slower. Two objects moving at the same speed with different masses have different amounts of energy when they hit. Ogre: 400+ lbs, halfling: 35+ lbs. Assuming that the ogre (or boat oar) swungs at the same speed as the halfling (or short sword) then the ogre (oar) will hit with substantually more energy.</p><p></p><p>As far as the focus of force goes, in the case of the short sword vs. the boat oar, you are taking a piercing weapon with an extremely small cross-section at the point of impact and compairing it to a blunt object with an area of distribution of force many orders of magnitude greater. By comparison, an ogre's fist probably has something like 8 times the punching surface that a halfling's does. Said another way, sword<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" />ar surface ratio may be 1:100 (at least) and the halfing to ogre fist surface ratio may be 1:8. Even if my SWAG isn't dead on, they give the right perspective on the comparison. Basically, you are comparing apples to oranges with your examples.</p><p></p><p>Giving this my best shot in english: The halfling does hit on a more focused point, but the ogre hits so much harder that the amount of energy across the fist is still greater for the ogre. If you like, I can run the numbers for you to show how this works if you want to propose some of the physical parameters for an example if you will provide some numbers.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, a slapping motion is a much less efficient use of muscles and mass then a punching motion, again an apples to oranges comparison. </p><p></p><p>NSHY</p><p>gnimish88</p><p>AKA - The gnome from Nome</p><p></p><p>P.S. - children are seriously injured and killed by open hand blows every year.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gnimish88, post: 1606651, member: 15041"] Not having any small children handy, it will indeed have to be a mental exercise. ;-) Your arguments miss more physics. Force = mass X acceleration and is probably not what you are trying to argue here, but even if it is, what follows still applies. A larger object that hits with the same energy or force as a smaller object moves slower. Two objects moving at the same speed with different masses have different amounts of energy when they hit. Ogre: 400+ lbs, halfling: 35+ lbs. Assuming that the ogre (or boat oar) swungs at the same speed as the halfling (or short sword) then the ogre (oar) will hit with substantually more energy. As far as the focus of force goes, in the case of the short sword vs. the boat oar, you are taking a piercing weapon with an extremely small cross-section at the point of impact and compairing it to a blunt object with an area of distribution of force many orders of magnitude greater. By comparison, an ogre's fist probably has something like 8 times the punching surface that a halfling's does. Said another way, sword:oar surface ratio may be 1:100 (at least) and the halfing to ogre fist surface ratio may be 1:8. Even if my SWAG isn't dead on, they give the right perspective on the comparison. Basically, you are comparing apples to oranges with your examples. Giving this my best shot in english: The halfling does hit on a more focused point, but the ogre hits so much harder that the amount of energy across the fist is still greater for the ogre. If you like, I can run the numbers for you to show how this works if you want to propose some of the physical parameters for an example if you will provide some numbers. Lastly, a slapping motion is a much less efficient use of muscles and mass then a punching motion, again an apples to oranges comparison. NSHY gnimish88 AKA - The gnome from Nome P.S. - children are seriously injured and killed by open hand blows every year. [/QUOTE]
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