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<blockquote data-quote="smbakeresq" data-source="post: 7267642" data-attributes="member: 28301">Wow, what a difference.&nbsp; You original claimed these huge variations, multitudes, that involved trade offs (I didn't page back to get a quote.)&nbsp; Now its down to 2d6 vs a d12, and the whip, which is a d4 weapon with finesse and reach properties. To use a d12 vs 2d6 you trade a bell curve for flatter distribution that works out to 0.5 more average damage but higher crit damage.&nbsp; The whip,&nbsp;&nbsp; I am sure you have seen 100's of those in use.&nbsp; You get to use DEX and have reach with a d4 damage die.&nbsp; You have proven with those examples that you can read down the weapon list searching for something and that there is no real difference among every weapon in the PHB. Like I said to the OP, letting a elf monk use his racial weapons as monk weapons isn't game breaking, it isn't over-powered, it isn't a Pandora box, dangerous precedent or anything like that at all.&nbsp; Its letting a player explore a role-playing hook for a PC he/she cares about.&nbsp; Of course the player is lying to his DM (the OP) just to get more DPR (who would play with such a person?), well he/she really put one over on the DM to the tune of 1 extra point of damage per hit until level 11 in the monk class.Personally, if I was the DM, I would think an Elven Monastery would of course be a long term investment, an Elf might study for 100 years and still be an apprentice.&nbsp; They would probably teach only Elf racial weapons (all of them) no other weapons on the Monks list.&nbsp; The monastery would be open to all members of the Elf race, to promote greater harmony among the different types.&nbsp; Through training they might mitigate weaknesses.&nbsp; It might exist in a huge, ancient hollowed out tree, like in that Dungeon Magazine years ago (forgot which one.)&nbsp; A good player could really run with that background and just drip adventure hooks all over the place.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="smbakeresq, post: 7267642, member: 28301"] Wow, what a difference. You original claimed these huge variations, multitudes, that involved trade offs (I didn't page back to get a quote.) Now its down to 2d6 vs a d12, and the whip, which is a d4 weapon with finesse and reach properties. To use a d12 vs 2d6 you trade a bell curve for flatter distribution that works out to 0.5 more average damage but higher crit damage. The whip, I am sure you have seen 100's of those in use. You get to use DEX and have reach with a d4 damage die. You have proven with those examples that you can read down the weapon list searching for something and that there is no real difference among every weapon in the PHB. Like I said to the OP, letting a elf monk use his racial weapons as monk weapons isn't game breaking, it isn't over-powered, it isn't a Pandora box, dangerous precedent or anything like that at all. Its letting a player explore a role-playing hook for a PC he/she cares about. Of course the player is lying to his DM (the OP) just to get more DPR (who would play with such a person?), well he/she really put one over on the DM to the tune of 1 extra point of damage per hit until level 11 in the monk class. Personally, if I was the DM, I would think an Elven Monastery would of course be a long term investment, an Elf might study for 100 years and still be an apprentice. They would probably teach only Elf racial weapons (all of them) no other weapons on the Monks list. The monastery would be open to all members of the Elf race, to promote greater harmony among the different types. Through training they might mitigate weaknesses. It might exist in a huge, ancient hollowed out tree, like in that Dungeon Magazine years ago (forgot which one.) A good player could really run with that background and just drip adventure hooks all over the place. [/QUOTE]

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