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<blockquote data-quote="jbuck" data-source="post: 2855294" data-attributes="member: 37177">i love monks, though i do agree that they would probably be better suited to an oriental campaign.i cant see how you came to the conclusion that monks are terrible. i've currently been banned from playing monks by our DM because he has scerious issues with killing my monks.in our last game i made a VoP monk that had 30AC at FIRST level (10 base, 4 dex, 4 wis, 4 mage armour, 4 exalted armour bonus and 4 from shield of faith)granted that i did have 2 18s to play with there, but still thats still 27 if i only had a 16 and a 14 to put in my AC stats.and for our 20th level game i did worse, 5th level monk human paragon.the stats (after items and racial ajustments) wereSTR: 30 (w/t +2 ion stone)DEX: 36 (w/t +6 gloves of dex)CON: 32WIS: 38 (w/t +6 amulet of wis &amp; my 1 lonesome stat point)INT: 27CHA: 22(the origional stats i rolled were: 17, 16, 15, 12, 13, 7)&amp; the best part was that even with only 5 HD i had 155 HP (i got 31 per lvl: 8 from monk always max cause of paragon, 12 bonus from paragon, and 11 con)my AC was just huge: 10 base +15 luck +10 natural + 13 dex + 13 wis + 1 monk AC + bracers of armour +8 + 5 ring of deflection + 4 mage armour + 1 dodge = 80, 70 for touch attacks. and couse i had a +25 luck bonus to hit &amp; damage it killed stuff good too, even though i only had 2 attacks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jbuck, post: 2855294, member: 37177"] i love monks, though i do agree that they would probably be better suited to an oriental campaign. i cant see how you came to the conclusion that monks are terrible. i've currently been banned from playing monks by our DM because he has scerious issues with killing my monks. in our last game i made a VoP monk that had 30AC at FIRST level (10 base, 4 dex, 4 wis, 4 mage armour, 4 exalted armour bonus and 4 from shield of faith) granted that i did have 2 18s to play with there, but still thats still 27 if i only had a 16 and a 14 to put in my AC stats. and for our 20th level game i did worse, 5th level monk human paragon. the stats (after items and racial ajustments) were STR: 30 (w/t +2 ion stone) DEX: 36 (w/t +6 gloves of dex) CON: 32 WIS: 38 (w/t +6 amulet of wis & my 1 lonesome stat point) INT: 27 CHA: 22 (the origional stats i rolled were: 17, 16, 15, 12, 13, 7) & the best part was that even with only 5 HD i had 155 HP (i got 31 per lvl: 8 from monk always max cause of paragon, 12 bonus from paragon, and 11 con) my AC was just huge: 10 base +15 luck +10 natural + 13 dex + 13 wis + 1 monk AC + bracers of armour +8 + 5 ring of deflection + 4 mage armour + 1 dodge = 80, 70 for touch attacks. and couse i had a +25 luck bonus to hit & damage it killed stuff good too, even though i only had 2 attacks. [/QUOTE]

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