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Message: <blockquote data-quote="phindar" data-source="post: 3821568" data-attributes="member: 37198">I looked over the weapon size chart hoping I was missing something, that maybe Monkey Grip was a better alternative for characters who couldn't get Power Attack, like an elf with a 20 Dex and Weapon Finesse who wanted to wield a Large rapier.  But a Large rapier is only a d8 up from a d6 and that's completely worthless.  My paladin at least goes from a long sword's d8 to a 2d6. I think if the damage relative to weapon size were more consistent (say, if each weapon did about 150% of the damage of the same weapon of the smaller size), the Monkey Grip would be more viable-- particularly for characters who aren't going the Power Attack route.  Take for instance a Small character who wants to wield a Medium weapon.  A halfling's d10 Small great axe becomes a d12, and that sucks.  But a human's bastard sword at d10 becomes 2d8 at Large, and that's a much better deal.  Likewise, the small bastard sword is d8 at Small and d10 at Medium, so its weird that it makes such a dramatic leap to 2d8 at Large.  Monkey Grip will never be a great feat, but its odd that whether its almost not suboptimal or completely flippin' useless depends so much on the particular weapon you're increasing.</blockquote>