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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 768426" data-attributes="member: 10397">well in the statement you quoted I said in DND its personality traits. if you read the alignment descpretions in the PHB, thats pretty much what it&nbsp; Ohh well I should amend that...personality traits and political views(lots of government versus anachronistic type thing etc). I find the monk alignment restriction in particular to be very silly because as defined in DnD the monk has both lawful AND Chaotic traits. extreme discpline is lawful, but a monks self-fous is in DnD terms quite chaotic. and I still dont see what a Paladins status as a holy champion has to do with Law&nbsp; Yes, I am aware that many fantasies are based on Order Versus Chaos. or rather...they use those words. Most such stories I have encountered are Good VS Evil stories that just call the oposed forces Order and Chaos instead of good and evil...I havent read Moorcocks stuff but I've heard quite a bit about it and from everything I can tell, its one of those.&nbsp; Much of this of course is a matter of opnions/beliefs. but like I said I find it hard to deny that the alignment descpretions of Law and Chaos in DnD by and large describe personality aspects and to a lesser extent views on poltics and governmental styles.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 768426, member: 10397"] well in the statement you quoted I said in DND its personality traits. if you read the alignment descpretions in the PHB, thats pretty much what it Ohh well I should amend that...personality traits and political views(lots of government versus anachronistic type thing etc). I find the monk alignment restriction in particular to be very silly because as defined in DnD the monk has both lawful AND Chaotic traits. extreme discpline is lawful, but a monks self-fous is in DnD terms quite chaotic. and I still dont see what a Paladins status as a holy champion has to do with Law Yes, I am aware that many fantasies are based on Order Versus Chaos. or rather...they use those words. Most such stories I have encountered are Good VS Evil stories that just call the oposed forces Order and Chaos instead of good and evil...I havent read Moorcocks stuff but I've heard quite a bit about it and from everything I can tell, its one of those. Much of this of course is a matter of opnions/beliefs. but like I said I find it hard to deny that the alignment descpretions of Law and Chaos in DnD by and large describe personality aspects and to a lesser extent views on poltics and governmental styles. [/QUOTE]

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