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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 1559564" data-attributes="member: 9002">Regarding very odd assumptions --I just want to make it clear that PAX when squaring off a Wiz20 vs. a Monk20 is not playing by core rules (which is fine, but it sure makes for a confusing comparison when the rules of the game shift under one's feet) and also makes some Monk-friendly assumptions:1)&nbsp; Freedom of Movement does not stop grappling.2)&nbsp; A Monk either has a round to prepare a Lion's Charge spell, or the monk has the pounce ability from unnamed race (in which case it's not really a Monk20, rather I suspect a Race X Monk18 or whatever, not that it matters a bunch) or the Monk has an epic? feat.&nbsp; 3)&nbsp; The Monk in question can activate some sort of anti-magic as a free action.4)&nbsp; The Monk wins initiative.5)&nbsp; The two are close enough that the Monk can close with a charge, and there is straight-line access.6)&nbsp; The Wizard even when in the anti-magic field that the monk somehow creates with a free action, will be pinned/stuck/not able to move and quickly squelched.That about sums it up.&nbsp; I'm sure I've missed a few additonal assumptions -- I'm not even including a Wiz20's contingency or anything like that, which is too easy (&quot;when an enemy gets within 50 feet teleport to La-La land,&quot; etc.)Others can, of course, add to the list for fun and no profit, or not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 1559564, member: 9002"] [b]Regarding very odd assumptions --[/b] I just want to make it clear that PAX when squaring off a Wiz20 vs. a Monk20 is not playing by core rules (which is fine, but it sure makes for a confusing comparison when the rules of the game shift under one's feet) and also makes some Monk-friendly assumptions: 1) Freedom of Movement does not stop grappling. 2) A Monk either has a round to prepare a Lion's Charge spell, or the monk has the pounce ability from unnamed race (in which case it's not really a Monk20, rather I suspect a Race X Monk18 or whatever, not that it matters a bunch) or the Monk has an epic? feat. 3) The Monk in question can activate some sort of anti-magic as a free action. 4) The Monk wins initiative. 5) The two are close enough that the Monk can close with a charge, and there is straight-line access. 6) The Wizard even when in the anti-magic field that the monk somehow creates with a free action, will be pinned/stuck/not able to move and quickly squelched. That about sums it up. I'm sure I've missed a few additonal assumptions -- I'm not even including a Wiz20's contingency or anything like that, which is too easy ("when an enemy gets within 50 feet teleport to La-La land," etc.) Others can, of course, add to the list for fun and no profit, or not. [/QUOTE]

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