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monks and natural attacks...again :(
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<blockquote data-quote="Legildur" data-source="post: 2867424" data-attributes="member: 1258"><p>Welcome to the boards.</p><p></p><p>First thing is to realise that a monk uses an 'unarmed strike' to attack, while trolls use 'natural weapons', so polymorphed monks face a dilemma as to whether to use their class ability or the natural attack routine of their new form.</p><p></p><p>In this case, an 11th level monk could either Flurry of Blows with an unarmed strike (2d8 damage per attack for being size Large when polymorphed) for 4 attacks, or could use the claw/claw/bite/rend routine of the troll (with damage as per the MM, adjusted for the monk's strength bonus).</p><p></p><p>I'm unsure whether a monk could use claw attacks in each of its normal iterative attacks (at the +8/+3 BAB), but that would be suboptimal (in terms of total attack bonus and number of attacks) anyway compared to the full-attack routine available to a troll.</p><p></p><p>But I will caveat this by saying that I'm no expert in this area. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Legildur, post: 2867424, member: 1258"] Welcome to the boards. First thing is to realise that a monk uses an 'unarmed strike' to attack, while trolls use 'natural weapons', so polymorphed monks face a dilemma as to whether to use their class ability or the natural attack routine of their new form. In this case, an 11th level monk could either Flurry of Blows with an unarmed strike (2d8 damage per attack for being size Large when polymorphed) for 4 attacks, or could use the claw/claw/bite/rend routine of the troll (with damage as per the MM, adjusted for the monk's strength bonus). I'm unsure whether a monk could use claw attacks in each of its normal iterative attacks (at the +8/+3 BAB), but that would be suboptimal (in terms of total attack bonus and number of attacks) anyway compared to the full-attack routine available to a troll. But I will caveat this by saying that I'm no expert in this area. :) [/QUOTE]
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