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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5741450" data-attributes="member: 4348">But as the Caster is spending money to gain spells, the Monk who doesn't have to worry about the money would be spending on buffing themselves up.  A Monk built right is basically immune to all spells by 14th level, and can kill, even a poorly prepped Monk 50% of the time on a single hit to the Caster at 15th level...while a Monk who's worked on their wisdom should have a MUCH better percentage than that to kill the Caster.The Monk shouldn't be worried about Money or armor, none of that would do anything against a caster...if concentrated, it's all going into becoming immune to magic and killing casters in one hit.  The common mistake I see is that people worry too much about the Monk being on par with a warrior or a wizard in killing the melee types, when in reality the Monk is more built to kill the big powerful wizard by slipping through the frontlines and wizard defenses promptly with their move, and using their action as the kill button.PS:Brought this up because had a player at 16th level join our game recently, and they have A quivering Palm which a Wizard has to make a 35 Fort Save against.  They have a +27 Will Not inclusive of normal bonuses, +20 Ref, and a +18 Fort.After our first session, UNLESS I BUILD A WIZARD specifically to counter the Monk, which I think is especially cheesy, afterall, most Wizards will deal with Warriors, Thieves, goblins...and all sorts of other things rather than Monks...I don't see how I can have the NPC Wizard simply survive the Monks Quivering Palm.  the Monk also likes to Stunlock foes if that fails, but there are some counters to that.We've only had one session thus far, but their handling of their Monk impressed me.  Was also effective again overall against others as well.  Plus, the quivering palm only works once a week, but still...used it to one shot a BBEG last session...and the Fort needed to make that save sort of stunned me.</blockquote>

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