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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5741585" data-attributes="member: 4348">Didn't look over them yet, but ironic thing in your post.Actually, that was my original portion of it.  With the slight change of the Wizard being within the Monk's initial movement (so not right beside, but close enough for the Monk simply to hop over), the Monk would have a 50/50 chance of killing the Wizard, which to me seems an extraordinarily HIGH chance or percentage.I had to look up to see if I was hearing it right when the player was telling me about hitting me with the Quivering Palm.  I knew, but for some reason it never really clicked until he did it to the BBEG last session.  Lo and behold...with simple checks...it indeed could be a 50/50 chance against the Monk...which is FAR better than just about any other Melee character out there than I know of...which is where my surprise came in.From my original postWith those chances along with the ability for the Monk to sneak around (non-magical stealth) I'd send a bunch of Monks to kill a BBEG Wizard before sending the local group of Fighters/Barbarians etc.Which is where the more balance I'm coming from...against Wizards. Monks seem much more remarkably able than the typical Fighter...though the Fighter could get Stun lock against creatures...the Fighter typically won't concentrate as strongly on Wisdom....hence the saves aren't going to be that rough...and the Fighter can't evade through enemies as easily nor use dimension door (though toss in a few levels of Mage and Eldritch Knight and he can...though far later in leveling)...and definately seems to lack the saves, defense against touch attacks, and SR.AKA...the Monk seems to be much better matched against a Wizard overall than other classes.  It's not a definate kill...though this guy's Monk on which he concentrated on a few areas seems a little overkill in some arenas...it seems to do surprisingly better against wizards than what I've heard many complain about on these boards.Edit Addition:  Did a quick glance through...should be okay if with a party.  If alone against Monk (Or even a Rogue or Assassin for that matter) could I suggest a few levels of spot...maybe a few of search too depending on what they do if you don't spot them?  Maybe you got it covered by a contingency or something...not certain...but that's probably their first avenue of approach one on one.  Otherwise, interesting characters at first glance.</blockquote>

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