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<blockquote data-quote="Dandu" data-source="post: 5741590" data-attributes="member: 85158"><p>To kill a caster with a monk, you will have to move up to the caster and attack. Immediately, you have the problem of only being able to launch one single attack on the round that you advance on the enemy.</p><p></p><p>Now, that attack could be a Stunning Fist, which targets the caster's weak Fort save... except that the DC is based off of Wisdom, and to hit is based off of not-Wisdom. I have a <a href="http://www.thetangledweb.net/forums/profiler/view_char.php?cid=43680" target="_blank">level 10 monk</a> whose Stunning Fist DC is 20, which sounds nice until you realize the <a href="http://www.thetangledweb.net/forums/profiler/view_char.php?cid=33853" target="_blank">level 10 sorcerer</a> I posted earlier has a Fort save of +11. And an AC of 26 using spells whose duration is measured in hours vs the monk's attack bonus of +11. And this sorcerer isn't even that optimized, just competently built.</p><p></p><p>Grappling is another caster killing tactic, but you cannot establish a grapple and pin someone to quiet them with one attack. In the best case scenario, you simply manage to initiate a grapple, which one Dimension Door or similar spell will foil.</p><p></p><p>Sending the caster into negative HP with damage will not work either, as there is no way for a monk to do so. Well, you could if you multiclassed into Fighter, and took Spirited Charge, Leap Attack and Shock Trooper so you could Power Attack with a lance... but at this point, you're better off being a different class entirely.</p><p></p><p>tl;dr Not even 50/50.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dandu, post: 5741590, member: 85158"] To kill a caster with a monk, you will have to move up to the caster and attack. Immediately, you have the problem of only being able to launch one single attack on the round that you advance on the enemy. Now, that attack could be a Stunning Fist, which targets the caster's weak Fort save... except that the DC is based off of Wisdom, and to hit is based off of not-Wisdom. I have a [URL="http://www.thetangledweb.net/forums/profiler/view_char.php?cid=43680"]level 10 monk[/URL] whose Stunning Fist DC is 20, which sounds nice until you realize the [URL="http://www.thetangledweb.net/forums/profiler/view_char.php?cid=33853"]level 10 sorcerer[/URL] I posted earlier has a Fort save of +11. And an AC of 26 using spells whose duration is measured in hours vs the monk's attack bonus of +11. And this sorcerer isn't even that optimized, just competently built. Grappling is another caster killing tactic, but you cannot establish a grapple and pin someone to quiet them with one attack. In the best case scenario, you simply manage to initiate a grapple, which one Dimension Door or similar spell will foil. Sending the caster into negative HP with damage will not work either, as there is no way for a monk to do so. Well, you could if you multiclassed into Fighter, and took Spirited Charge, Leap Attack and Shock Trooper so you could Power Attack with a lance... but at this point, you're better off being a different class entirely. tl;dr Not even 50/50. [/QUOTE]
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