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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5741605" data-attributes="member: 4348">Normal Monk would probably have at LEAST a +3 to +5 (depending on STR and perhaps one magic item...more if the Monk includes several various items, or with the right build and DM interpretation, maybe based off DEX instead) to hit on top of the BAB.  However you're right with the Monk simply moving up and attacking, normally with Stun or QP.  One attack.Personally I hate having to work on the Wizard being defensive as I'm of the opinion a good defense is a strong offense...if you kill them first...you'll never have to worry about them attacking you in the first place!  However, that's where all the Polymorph ideas people were tossing around earlier came from I imagine...as they are thinking of defenseively instead of offensively. Typically you need to go on offense to kill someone though.  Defense keeps you alive...but unless you are trying to kill them...they'll just keep attacking!Can't count on the Monk attacking during those hours the Mage's spells are up...if the Mage isn't aware of the Monk...then the Mage has no reason to keep them up...unless the Mage is in the habit of simply tossing away spells for no reason...or is surrounded by those he thinks will kill him any minute...at which point Mage may not be getting much sleep...or having much time to study and renew his/her spells either (one KEY weakness of Wizards and a few of the other spellcasters).If Mage is aware of the Monk, they'd be an idiot not to take the knowledge and buff up and attack to be on the offense and possibly catch them by surprise rather than be surprised.However, unless he has a way of actually knowing the Monk is there...he wouldn't know when or where the Monk is going to attack...or the Assassin...or the thief....Hope he has some good way to detect stealth...cause your build is never going to SPOT them.If he doesn't spot or know they are there...that's yet another bonus the Monk gets (didn't get it in our fight, Wizard knew Monk was there at the beginning).If they get something that grants a low level replication of something like True Strike (+20 to hit), even once a day...hitting that Wizard actually isn't that tough at all...and rather cheap too.  Actually, they'd have to roll a 1 to miss an AC of 26.I'd have something even simple like a ring of invisibility...now that's an item that's useful for any wizard against NON-Wizards.  Without a counteraction for that, it makes it an automatic 50% miss chance for the Monk regardless.Now that I'm thinking about that...not a bad idea for my next BBEG with this party...though I imagine the Cleric will simply disable that idea within a round.</blockquote>

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