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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5742770" data-attributes="member: 4348">So you'll leave a Monk in mid-air.  Grabbing something or flexing a hand is actually not a standard action and DM fiat could be seen as a free action.grabbing to hold onto the mage (saying you didn't impact him and cause 1d6 plus scatter) as I see it is a free action.Plus as I said, the next round the Mage has to win initiative twice in a row against the Monk who is now in his face.I'd say his position is actually worse if he casts fly the first round personally.  He can't rise up fast enough to escape the Monk in that instance.Anyways, it's been fun.  No one has really come up with a convincing argument in my eyes for roleplaying that the Monk isn't really a magekiller, though a LOT of stuff for Rollplaying/metagamers.  That was sort of expected as per my first post...as per the detractors of it...so expected.Thanks for the comments to all, hopefully for Monk ROLEPLAYERS it's been somewhat insightful, and for the Rollplayers hopefully it's been fun showing what one can do against the Monks or others on the opposite end of the spectrum.Thanks to all who wrote in the thread, it's appreciated.  It went on far longer then I ever expected when I wrote it.  Ironically now the BBEG is a Corrupted Druid in the campaign, so I suppose we'll see how the guys do with her next.</blockquote>