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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Clint_L" data-source="post: 9068178" data-attributes="member: 7035894">It's not the same, though, because to tank effectively the monk needs mobility and avoidance, and to generate meaningful offence they need FoB. All of which currently run off the bonus action. So, for monks, it's not really a "bonus" at all, it's integral to their basic functioning. And with all three things they need to tank effectively, if briefly, running off one "bonus" action, tanking becomes non-viable.Again, my Mercy monk can only tank effectively because Hand of Harm automatically adds the disadvantage effect to her target without using up the bonus action.Fighters and barbarians don't "spend" hit points, they lose them - no action economy required. So for them, the bonus action is a true bonus - their defence and offence are fine without it, so the barbarian can use it to rage, the fighter to second wind, etc. Totally different action economy.Edit: Let's take my monk example above. They are burning through ki points pretty quickly, but during that time, let's see how they stack up against an Orc (assuming current damage because I don't want to deal with mastery effects, and skipping critical hits, though monk's defence actually improves by slightly less than 5% compared to barbarian and fighter if we factor them in, due to patient defence effectively pushing them off the table):Monk: Offence: 9.1 DPR. Defence: 2.375 DPRBarbarian: Offence: 7.8 DPR. Defence: 2.6125 DPRFighter: 7.475 DPR. Defence: 2.375 DPRVery close, with the monk being a little bit better. But I think this is as it should be, because the monk has a smaller HP pool and is burning through ki, so this is only sustainable for a few rounds. And note that the fighter still has second wind, and barbarian has that big HP pool, the fighter can double their DPR for one round, etc. The upshot is that if it's a long fight or a fight against many foes, the monk is not going to be your first choice of tank, but they will be able to do a good job for a short time before using that mobility to get away. This makes sense for how most folks see the class, I believe.All of which is to say that if you make those small tweaks outlined above, I don't think monks need a d10 hit die. They just need their resource pool slightly improved and their action economy cleaned up.</blockquote>

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