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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9073193" data-attributes="member: 93670">They went much deeper than those short ones.  Chains & combos are different things, Feat combos may or may not be made of feat chains. I went looking for a particularly in depth feat chain based build & found <a href="https://www.myth-weavers.com/showthread.php?t=108375" target="_blank">several examples</a>. Here is a common well known one(with prereqs):<a href="https://dndtools.net/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/power-attack--2208/" target="_blank">Power Attack</a> (str13)→<a href="https://dndtools.net/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/improved-sunder--1577/" target="_blank"> Improved Sunder</a> (str 13, power attack)→ <a href="https://dndtools.net/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/combat-expertise--394/" target="_blank">Combat Expertise</a>(str13)→<a href="http://www.theworldofnocturne.com/dndtools/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/improved-trip--1587/index.html" target="_blank"> Improved Trip</a>(int13, combat expertise)→ <a href="https://dndtools.net/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/improved-bull-rush--1451/" target="_blank">Improved Bull Rush</a>(str13, power attack)→ <a href="https://dndtools.net/feats/complete-warrior--61/combat-brute--389/" target="_blank">Combat Brute</a>(power attack, improved sunder, BaB+6)→<a href="https://dndtools.net/feats/complete-warrior--61/shock-trooper--2614/" target="_blank"> Shocktrooper</a>(power attack, improved bull rush, BaB +6)*Some of those in the example were very powerful feats but through the application of feat chain requirements they are more like a secondary subclass(then called a PrC) but built via feats with some input on the order of parts.I seem to recall somehow qualifying a changeling rogue for mystic theurge using racial feats & PrCs without ever taking a level in a caster class that probably used combos that I'm not going to hunt for. There were some combos that probably didn't make use of chains but I can't think of any great combos that didn't include some level of chain. My suspicion & hazy memory is that they involved things like multiclass bingo to meet a bunch of "## in X skill" "must be specific race" & "ability to cast Y spell/do Z"*I think a pure fighter could get all of that by around level 6 or 7 while almost any other class & most PrCs had a bunch of class features rather than bonus feats galore.</blockquote>

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