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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2062633" data-attributes="member: 2011">&quot;If the character is not a monk, she gains the AC and unarmed damage of a 5th-level monk.&quot;&quot;AC Bonus (Ex): When unarmored and unencumbered, the monk adds her Wisdom bonus (if any) to her AC. In addition, a monk gains a +1 bonus to AC at 5th level.&quot;The +1 bonus to AC is not even the first point of the AC bonus mentioned in the Monk class. The Wisdom bonus is.If you ask the question: &quot;What is the AC of a fifth level Monk?&quot;, the answer has to be:1 + Dexterity bonus + Wisdom bonus + any bonuses due to magic.If you ask the question: &quot;What is the AC of a non-Monk wearing a Monk's belt?&quot;, the answer has to be:1 + Dexterity bonus + Wisdom bonus + any bonuses due to magic.How can you just haphazardly drop any of these and state that this was the intent? The Monk AC rules give a Monk an increasing AC bonus. The rules for a Monk's belt for non-Monks gives a non-Monk the AC and unarmed damage of a 5th-level Monk, not a fraction of the AC and unarmed damage of a 5th-level Monk.Explain where in the rules it indicates that a wearer of a Monk's belt does not get ALL of the benefits of it.So, it seems clear that the &quot;intent&quot; is that a Monk's AC is based on several factors (Dex bonus, level bonus, Wis bonus), none of which you can just drop on the floor merely because the item is powerful for Druids as well.You appear to be basing a portion of your position here off of game balance and what can happen if you get a certain magic item from a non-core book that was written years after the core rules on this, not based on what is actually written in the rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2062633, member: 2011"] "If the character is not a monk, she gains the AC and unarmed damage of a 5th-level monk." "AC Bonus (Ex): When unarmored and unencumbered, the monk adds her Wisdom bonus (if any) to her AC. In addition, a monk gains a +1 bonus to AC at 5th level." The +1 bonus to AC is not even the first point of the AC bonus mentioned in the Monk class. The Wisdom bonus is. If you ask the question: "What is the AC of a fifth level Monk?", the answer has to be: 1 + Dexterity bonus + Wisdom bonus + any bonuses due to magic. If you ask the question: "What is the AC of a non-Monk wearing a Monk's belt?", the answer has to be: 1 + Dexterity bonus + Wisdom bonus + any bonuses due to magic. How can you just haphazardly drop any of these and state that this was the intent? The Monk AC rules give a Monk an increasing AC bonus. The rules for a Monk's belt for non-Monks gives a non-Monk the AC and unarmed damage of a 5th-level Monk, not a fraction of the AC and unarmed damage of a 5th-level Monk. Explain where in the rules it indicates that a wearer of a Monk's belt does not get ALL of the benefits of it. So, it seems clear that the "intent" is that a [b]Monk's AC[/b] is based on several factors (Dex bonus, level bonus, Wis bonus), none of which you can just drop on the floor merely because the item is powerful for Druids as well. You appear to be basing a portion of your position here off of game balance and what can happen if you get a certain magic item from a non-core book that was written years after the core rules on this, not based on what is actually written in the rules. [/QUOTE]

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