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<blockquote data-quote="akbearfoot" data-source="post: 5288282" data-attributes="member: 33560">Doesn't the NPC monk in the DMGexamples have improved natural attack after a certain level?Superior unarmed strike and monks belt should stack just fine...neither are named bonuses, and they are obviously different sources.&nbsp; Throw in a monks tatoo for extra fun.&nbsp; I can sorta see how it could be read that way, given some people subscribe to the notion that anything that improves 'caster level by x'&nbsp; also does not stack with anything else that improves caster level.&nbsp; I&nbsp; personally disagree with that translation.Base monks of pretty much any normal race are weak compared to the other martial classes.&nbsp; Especially compared to pretty much anything else that just dips into monk for 2 levels. Monk 2/Psy WarriorX comes to mind.Warforged monks with enchanted Battle Fists and the Fist of the Forest PrC are strong.&nbsp; Or any monk that has access to the Pounce special ability, which I think personally should be banned in games where balance is desired.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="akbearfoot, post: 5288282, member: 33560"] Doesn't the NPC monk in the DMGexamples have improved natural attack after a certain level? Superior unarmed strike and monks belt should stack just fine...neither are named bonuses, and they are obviously different sources. Throw in a monks tatoo for extra fun. I can sorta see how it could be read that way, given some people subscribe to the notion that anything that improves 'caster level by x' also does not stack with anything else that improves caster level. I personally disagree with that translation. Base monks of pretty much any normal race are weak compared to the other martial classes. Especially compared to pretty much anything else that just dips into monk for 2 levels. Monk 2/Psy WarriorX comes to mind. Warforged monks with enchanted Battle Fists and the Fist of the Forest PrC are strong. Or any monk that has access to the Pounce special ability, which I think personally should be banned in games where balance is desired. [/QUOTE]

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