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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1554876" data-attributes="member: 478">And how does he find the mage? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Stealth is fine, of course, but doesn't always help.Even simple tricks, like Blindsight, should cancel HiPS, as it just protects from being seen.You need a lot of magical toys to make yourself a mage-killer. And then it's not the monk, but the magic items, that do the work. The monk-part is rather irrelevant, really. Every cleric can do it better (especially survive the magical onslaught).Not really. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Yes, that would be needed, and of course, wouldn't help, thanks to silent spell Dimension Door / Teleport (every higher level mage has that kind of stuff ready, those that do not, are already dead <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />) or emergency Contingency.There are plenty spells the monk has no real chance to avoid.Only if you give the monk a huge benefit in terms of information, otherwise the mage wins almost always...Anyways... I just wanted to state, that to be a mage-killer, you need the appropriate equipment (and information).And if you want to be a real mage-killer, the cleric beats the monk by leagues.You basically need three things. Get the drop, grapple, antimagic field.That's a pretty certain way to beat the mage.ByeThanee</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1554876, member: 478"] And how does he find the mage? ;) Stealth is fine, of course, but doesn't always help. Even simple tricks, like Blindsight, should cancel HiPS, as it just protects from being seen. You need a lot of magical toys to make yourself a mage-killer. And then it's not the monk, but the magic items, that do the work. The monk-part is rather irrelevant, really. Every cleric can do it better (especially survive the magical onslaught). Not really. ;) Yes, that would be needed, and of course, wouldn't help, thanks to silent spell Dimension Door / Teleport (every higher level mage has that kind of stuff ready, those that do not, are already dead ;)) or emergency Contingency. There are plenty spells the monk has no real chance to avoid. Only if you give the monk a huge benefit in terms of information, otherwise the mage wins almost always... Anyways... I just wanted to state, that to be a mage-killer, you need the appropriate equipment (and information). And if you want to be a real mage-killer, the cleric beats the monk by leagues. You basically need three things. Get the drop, grapple, antimagic field. That's a pretty certain way to beat the mage. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]

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