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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5134653" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>Great.</p><p></p><p>It's also not the point.</p><p></p><p><em>Magic Implements: To use an implement, including its properties and powers, you must be able to wield that kind of implement.</em></p><p></p><p>'Weapon you are proficient in' is a kind of implement. Monks are able to wield that kind of implement. Therefore, they can use an implement, <strong>including its properties and powers</strong></p><p></p><p>All staves are able to be used as quarterstaffs, therefore monks are proficient in them. Therefore all staffs are implements useable by a monk, and thusly, is included the ability to use their powers.</p><p></p><p>The text 'a staff' refers to a specific staff in question, not to staffs in general, as shown by subsequent text saying 'a staff' 'the staff', etc. Just like 'that weapon' when describing weapon objects doesn't mean 'can only be used as a weapon', the same precident applies to staffs.</p><p></p><p>Thusly, what is required is that you can wield that -specific- staff as an implement, not the class of implement 'staff.'</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5134653, member: 71571"] Great. It's also not the point. [i]Magic Implements: To use an implement, including its properties and powers, you must be able to wield that kind of implement.[/i] 'Weapon you are proficient in' is a kind of implement. Monks are able to wield that kind of implement. Therefore, they can use an implement, [b]including its properties and powers[/b] All staves are able to be used as quarterstaffs, therefore monks are proficient in them. Therefore all staffs are implements useable by a monk, and thusly, is included the ability to use their powers. The text 'a staff' refers to a specific staff in question, not to staffs in general, as shown by subsequent text saying 'a staff' 'the staff', etc. Just like 'that weapon' when describing weapon objects doesn't mean 'can only be used as a weapon', the same precident applies to staffs. Thusly, what is required is that you can wield that -specific- staff as an implement, not the class of implement 'staff.' [/QUOTE]
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