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<blockquote data-quote="DeviousQuail" data-source="post: 8049134" data-attributes="member: 7025431">That video was 29 minutes too long and I don't think it will achieve TM's goal of being a reference for future discussions regarding how much monks suck. He does make plenty of good points that match things I've seen at my table but some need another look (that horse comparison in particular was not well thought out). The monk design isn't perfect but I've never found it to be unrewarding to play or DM for. I like that it can take on different roles in a pinch and offers exciting moments on a regular basis. Some better magic item and feat support from WotC wouldn't be remiss but those things are easier to homebrew compared to changes to the overall monk chassis. The only major gripe I have is how difficult it is to build monks that don't invest heavily in Dex, Wis, Con. I can't put my finger on it but the tradeoffs between the three don't feel as impactful or defining as Str/Dex, Con, Cha for Paladins or Str, Dex, Con for Barbarians.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DeviousQuail, post: 8049134, member: 7025431"] That video was 29 minutes too long and I don't think it will achieve TM's goal of being a reference for future discussions regarding how much monks suck. He does make plenty of good points that match things I've seen at my table but some need another look (that horse comparison in particular was not well thought out). The monk design isn't perfect but I've never found it to be unrewarding to play or DM for. I like that it can take on different roles in a pinch and offers exciting moments on a regular basis. Some better magic item and feat support from WotC wouldn't be remiss but those things are easier to homebrew compared to changes to the overall monk chassis. The only major gripe I have is how difficult it is to build monks that don't invest heavily in Dex, Wis, Con. I can't put my finger on it but the tradeoffs between the three don't feel as impactful or defining as Str/Dex, Con, Cha for Paladins or Str, Dex, Con for Barbarians. [/QUOTE]

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