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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 8049691" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Problem with a lit of these comparisons is you can't really factor in tripping or stunning into a for calculation.And people are comparing best case scenario to Monk base line.For example a rogue using green flame blade isn't dual wielding. Rogues win initiative a lot and often whiff on sneak attack damage round 1.The -5/+10 feats are borked. We should all know this by now. That's on the feats not the classes.Mobility is over rated. I see a lot of rogues running around the map not achieving much. Sometimes see monks doing the same thing.At levels people mostly play at (1-10 if not 1-6) the Monk is fine. Compares well to the rogue as Monks extra damage potential is always on.Level 6 us about as good as it gets for monks damage wise. You can flurry a lot and have 4 attacks.I would be more inclined to play a Monk with rolled stats that give you better scores. Default array is useful for white room theory crafting. Vast majority of tables I see roll for stats. Saw first table last week that didn't come to think of it.Comparisons with fighters are flawed. Different roles,Monks are skirmisher bad tanks. A monk trying to tank is bad@monking. Long death is about as good at tanking the class gets.Long fist monk I saw being played was bad@monking. Liked blowing ki points running around using dodge.Cute trick much like rogue doing something similar not achieving much.Monks should also use magic weapons if appropriate ones turn up. Spears, staff, finesse ones, swords for elves and kensai.I think monks make for a decent rogue replacement. You're trading skills for better at combat.Yes I consider Monks better than rogues at combat.DPR comparisons are very flawed as you can't white room flurry of blows, stunning strikes and trip attacks on way of fist.And outside combat the pass without trace ability on shadow monk is very good.</blockquote>

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