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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 8050356" data-attributes="member: 58197">Charts and graphs are equally, or even more, a waste of time if you don't account for all of the important elements of a class. And most of the chart-and-graphers aren't even trying to. They just do a DPR calculation, observe that the monk's direct personal DPR lags that of other classes, wave off all other factors as irrelevant, and call it a day. (The fact that Treantmonk of all people is leaning on DPR as the measure of a class's worth continues to boggle my mind.)I think the anecdotes are far more illuminating than the numbers game. They at least reflect a scenario where all factors have been taken into account. If you really want to do a statistical analysis, build a D&amp;D combat simulator, set up parties with different members, and run a few thousand combats. I have done this in other contexts, and it's remarkable what you can learn about class balance that you would never have gotten from simple DPR calculations.(It's a whole hell of a lot of work, though. Many many hours. There's a lot that goes into D&amp;D combat.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 8050356, member: 58197"] Charts and graphs are equally, or even more, a waste of time if you don't account for all of the important elements of a class. And most of the chart-and-graphers aren't even trying to. They just do a DPR calculation, observe that the monk's direct personal DPR lags that of other classes, wave off all other factors as irrelevant, and call it a day. (The fact that Treantmonk of all people is leaning on DPR as the measure of a class's worth continues to boggle my mind.) I think the anecdotes are far more illuminating than the numbers game. They at least reflect a scenario where all factors have been taken into account. If you [I]really[/I] want to do a statistical analysis, build a D&D combat simulator, set up parties with different members, and run a few thousand combats. I have done this in other contexts, and it's remarkable what you can learn about class balance that you would never have gotten from simple DPR calculations. (It's a whole hell of a lot of work, though. Many many hours. There's a lot that goes into D&D combat.) [/QUOTE]

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