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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 8050501" data-attributes="member: 7015698"><p>I'm playing a Monk and I find it unsatisfying. And it's in a party with two other members who enjoy Short Rest (including a Warlock) so we do often enter fights where I have my full Ki points... and I still find them I don't have enough, nor do I have something solid like Eldritch Blast to fall back on. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Rogue is the only fully at-will class in the game. The only reason they would want a short rest is to spend some Hit Dice. That's it. Their dependance can be fixed with the very common Potion of Healing. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See, now that's interesting. Both Stunning Strike and Flurry of Blows feed of the same resource (ki points) but one is made obsolete by the other to the point where using it after you gain the second is unoptimal. That feels counter intuitive. It's like if using your 1st level slot spent your 2nd level spell slots at the same time, you'd never use those 1st level slot.</p><p></p><p>But if you're meant to support your party with Stunning Strike, which is cool... why doesn't the Monk get more support option like that in its base kit? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then what IS the Monk's thing? What's the point of being a fragile Skirmisher if you're not going to inflict damage nor can you offer an array of support options?</p><p></p><p>Honestly, if I want to play 'the guy who punches' I do it because I want to kick some ass! Lay down the smack down and knock fools out with my bare fists! Not dance around doing mosquito bites worth of damage.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that means you don't have a problem... so why are you here? No one is telling you that you're wrong for enjoying the monk, nor that we want to take it away from you. A monk can be fun... but it can also be mechanically better than it is, is all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If the Monk was meant to be more support that'd be fine with me and I would love it... but they only have 1 support feature in the base class: Stunning Strike. A Shadow Monk can use Silence in combat, at the cost of the Stunning Strikes but that's about it as far as support go.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yup. A single build doesn't make a full class. Stunning Strike is the most optimal thing to do with your Ki points, all the time. That's just not conductive to variety.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 8050501, member: 7015698"] I'm playing a Monk and I find it unsatisfying. And it's in a party with two other members who enjoy Short Rest (including a Warlock) so we do often enter fights where I have my full Ki points... and I still find them I don't have enough, nor do I have something solid like Eldritch Blast to fall back on. The Rogue is the only fully at-will class in the game. The only reason they would want a short rest is to spend some Hit Dice. That's it. Their dependance can be fixed with the very common Potion of Healing. See, now that's interesting. Both Stunning Strike and Flurry of Blows feed of the same resource (ki points) but one is made obsolete by the other to the point where using it after you gain the second is unoptimal. That feels counter intuitive. It's like if using your 1st level slot spent your 2nd level spell slots at the same time, you'd never use those 1st level slot. But if you're meant to support your party with Stunning Strike, which is cool... why doesn't the Monk get more support option like that in its base kit? Then what IS the Monk's thing? What's the point of being a fragile Skirmisher if you're not going to inflict damage nor can you offer an array of support options? Honestly, if I want to play 'the guy who punches' I do it because I want to kick some ass! Lay down the smack down and knock fools out with my bare fists! Not dance around doing mosquito bites worth of damage. And that means you don't have a problem... so why are you here? No one is telling you that you're wrong for enjoying the monk, nor that we want to take it away from you. A monk can be fun... but it can also be mechanically better than it is, is all. If the Monk was meant to be more support that'd be fine with me and I would love it... but they only have 1 support feature in the base class: Stunning Strike. A Shadow Monk can use Silence in combat, at the cost of the Stunning Strikes but that's about it as far as support go. Yup. A single build doesn't make a full class. Stunning Strike is the most optimal thing to do with your Ki points, all the time. That's just not conductive to variety. [/QUOTE]
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