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<blockquote data-quote="Asisreo" data-source="post: 8051750" data-attributes="member: 7019027">The data's out. That's all that matters. Don't worry about people acting like it isn't there. It's probably just their pride. But they don't owe an apology, so you shouldn't expect one, yeah? Whether a class &quot;sucks&quot; or &quot;doesn't suck&quot; is a testimony to their effectiveness and any claims of evidence should be treated as such. Whether something is lackluster is completely up to the person's perception. To me, the most hype thing I see on a monk is: deflect missile, Step of the Wind (dodge), and evasion. All low level abilities but they have extreme luster to them. Here's the gameplan: attack, BA dodge and use your unarmored movement to leave. Their OA has disadvantage which is a roughly +4-5 AC increase the rest of the turn plus advantage on attacks. The distance forces them to attack at-range in which they have disadvantage, along with any other enemy, and you can use deflect missile. If they throw an AoE, I have advantage, and if I save (which is likely with dex proficiency), I take no damage at all. If I'm certain they can't catch-up and their AoE's aren't threatening or dex-based, I can either flurry instead of SoTW or I can just save the Ki.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Asisreo, post: 8051750, member: 7019027"] The data's out. That's all that matters. Don't worry about people acting like it isn't there. It's probably just their pride. But they don't owe an apology, so you shouldn't expect one, yeah? Whether a class "sucks" or "doesn't suck" is a testimony to their effectiveness and any claims of evidence should be treated as such. Whether something is lackluster is completely up to the person's perception. To me, the most hype thing I see on a monk is: deflect missile, Step of the Wind (dodge), and evasion. All low level abilities but they have extreme luster to them. Here's the gameplan: attack, BA dodge and use your unarmored movement to leave. Their OA has disadvantage which is a roughly +4-5 AC increase the rest of the turn plus advantage on attacks. The distance forces them to attack at-range in which they have disadvantage, along with any other enemy, and you can use deflect missile. If they throw an AoE, I have advantage, and if I save (which is likely with dex proficiency), I take no damage at all. If I'm certain they can't catch-up and their AoE's aren't threatening or dex-based, I can either flurry instead of SoTW or I can just save the Ki. [/QUOTE]

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