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Monks & the Improved Natural Attack Feat
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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 4013278" data-attributes="member: 141"><p>No, because IUS counts as a natural weapon for the purpose of spells. So spells that target natural weapons can target a monk's unarmed strike. If the wording was that that a monk's IUS counted as a natural weapon for the purpose of feats, then we wouldn't need this discussion. </p><p></p><p>But it doesn't say "feats", it says "effects". And while a feat has one or more effects, it is not an effect. Some feats, including INA, also have prerequisites. Prerequisites are not effects. Satisfying the target requirement of an effect is different from satisfying the prerequisites of a feat. IUS satisfies the target requirements of INA but not the prerequisites. And if the FAQ says otherwise, the FAQ is wrong.</p><p></p><p>The claim is not that it is unbalanced or unfun or broken to allow a monk to take INA, but that they do not satisfy its prerequisites.</p><p></p><p>But all this was debated <em>ad nauseam</em> in the thread.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 4013278, member: 141"] No, because IUS counts as a natural weapon for the purpose of spells. So spells that target natural weapons can target a monk's unarmed strike. If the wording was that that a monk's IUS counted as a natural weapon for the purpose of feats, then we wouldn't need this discussion. But it doesn't say "feats", it says "effects". And while a feat has one or more effects, it is not an effect. Some feats, including INA, also have prerequisites. Prerequisites are not effects. Satisfying the target requirement of an effect is different from satisfying the prerequisites of a feat. IUS satisfies the target requirements of INA but not the prerequisites. And if the FAQ says otherwise, the FAQ is wrong. The claim is not that it is unbalanced or unfun or broken to allow a monk to take INA, but that they do not satisfy its prerequisites. But all this was debated [i]ad nauseam[/i] in the thread. [/QUOTE]
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