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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 2517334" data-attributes="member: 78"><p>Yeah, they could take lots and lots of attacks that all sucked. The monk's attack progression, especially with lightning fists, tended to produce many attacks at very poor bonuses. A monk's attack with flurry would be +13/+13/+10/+7/+4/+1 at level 20 with just Bab and flurry penalties. You're attacking like a rogue, but you don't have sneak attack.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And now they can deal 2d10 damage on a hit, which is more damage on average. It also reduces the chance of scoring really weak hits (of course, it also reduces the chance of rolling 20 damage).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The effective bonus monks got from Ki strike was far behind the DR monsters had. At level 10, when the monk gets +1, monsters with DR often had +2 or greater DR. Now monks have a better chance of beating DR at low levels and have a chance of just blasting through it with big damage numbers.</p><p></p><p>One of the best features about the monk is that his multiple attack ability allows him full STR bonus on all the attacks, so he can easily multiply his damage bonus. Especially with Greater Flurry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Victim, post: 2517334, member: 78"] Yeah, they could take lots and lots of attacks that all sucked. The monk's attack progression, especially with lightning fists, tended to produce many attacks at very poor bonuses. A monk's attack with flurry would be +13/+13/+10/+7/+4/+1 at level 20 with just Bab and flurry penalties. You're attacking like a rogue, but you don't have sneak attack. And now they can deal 2d10 damage on a hit, which is more damage on average. It also reduces the chance of scoring really weak hits (of course, it also reduces the chance of rolling 20 damage). The effective bonus monks got from Ki strike was far behind the DR monsters had. At level 10, when the monk gets +1, monsters with DR often had +2 or greater DR. Now monks have a better chance of beating DR at low levels and have a chance of just blasting through it with big damage numbers. One of the best features about the monk is that his multiple attack ability allows him full STR bonus on all the attacks, so he can easily multiply his damage bonus. Especially with Greater Flurry. [/QUOTE]
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