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<blockquote data-quote="mysticknight232" data-source="post: 5172508" data-attributes="member: 88123">Don't forget that the Monk is an implement based class and not a weapon based class. That's why the weapon properties don't matter, including reach. You could use a magical ki focus and still use a plain old spear for example and gain the benefit of the Pointed Step Style feat, or a magical ki focus and use a club for the other feat. Likewise, you could make your shuriken or dagger your implement and throw it and it won't matter. If it's non-magical, you don't gain any Implement benefits from it anyway and you can recover it at the end of battle. If it's magical, it returns to your hand at the end of the attack any way per the rules of thrown/launched magical weapons. &nbsp;As far as extending the reach of your attacks, it's my understanding that Melee Touch is as far as you get. 1 square or that which you can touch. Melee Touch is not extendable. If it is, please show me where it says it can be. If you're talking about a reach weapon, it has no bearing on the powers that are Melee Touch, only the Melee 1 or Burst/Blast X powers. Not to mention that &quot;Reach&quot; is a property of the weapon anyway, which again has no bearing on Monk Implement attacks therefore it's a moot point in this thread unless you're using it to make a MBA, in which case the properties of the weapon will apply, such as proficiency bonus and reach if your weapon has that and you're proficient with it. &nbsp;I Monk is a very unique class because it's a Melee Implement based class. Most of the weapon rules do not apply to the Monk other than knowing if they are proficient with that weapon or not for purposes of wielding it.&nbsp;Edit: As a side note, Monks are Psionic and do not deal &quot;weapon&quot; dmg.&nbsp; Instead they convey dmg as magical energy generated by their mind, body and soul as focused through their Ki and passed along through their weapons (an unarmed melee strike is treated the same way).&nbsp; My Monk wields a Spear, but i never run my opponent through with his Spear.&nbsp; Instead i am merely &quot;touching&quot; him in various points along his anatomy in order to transfer my magical energy or dmg.&nbsp; My Spear is a conduit for the dmg i deal, it does not generate the dmg itself.&nbsp; &nbsp;If you make a MBA on the other hand, you are using the weapon to deal the dmg.&nbsp; In that case, i would be trying to run my opponent through with the head of the spear since i am not focusing my Ki on my attack, i am using my natural abilities (Str for a MBA) to try to deal dmg.&nbsp; Hopefully this clears up some confusion about Monks and their &quot;weapons&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mysticknight232, post: 5172508, member: 88123"] Don't forget that the Monk is an implement based class and not a weapon based class. That's why the weapon properties don't matter, including reach. You could use a magical ki focus and still use a plain old spear for example and gain the benefit of the Pointed Step Style feat, or a magical ki focus and use a club for the other feat. Likewise, you could make your shuriken or dagger your implement and throw it and it won't matter. If it's non-magical, you don't gain any Implement benefits from it anyway and you can recover it at the end of battle. If it's magical, it returns to your hand at the end of the attack any way per the rules of thrown/launched magical weapons. As far as extending the reach of your attacks, it's my understanding that Melee Touch is as far as you get. 1 square or that which you can touch. Melee Touch is not extendable. If it is, please show me where it says it can be. If you're talking about a reach weapon, it has no bearing on the powers that are Melee Touch, only the Melee 1 or Burst/Blast X powers. Not to mention that "Reach" is a property of the weapon anyway, which again has no bearing on Monk Implement attacks therefore it's a moot point in this thread unless you're using it to make a MBA, in which case the properties of the weapon will apply, such as proficiency bonus and reach if your weapon has that and you're proficient with it. I Monk is a very unique class because it's a Melee Implement based class. Most of the weapon rules do not apply to the Monk other than knowing if they are proficient with that weapon or not for purposes of wielding it. Edit: As a side note, Monks are Psionic and do not deal "weapon" dmg. Instead they convey dmg as magical energy generated by their mind, body and soul as focused through their Ki and passed along through their weapons (an unarmed melee strike is treated the same way). My Monk wields a Spear, but i never run my opponent through with his Spear. Instead i am merely "touching" him in various points along his anatomy in order to transfer my magical energy or dmg. My Spear is a conduit for the dmg i deal, it does not generate the dmg itself. If you make a MBA on the other hand, you are using the weapon to deal the dmg. In that case, i would be trying to run my opponent through with the head of the spear since i am not focusing my Ki on my attack, i am using my natural abilities (Str for a MBA) to try to deal dmg. Hopefully this clears up some confusion about Monks and their "weapons". [/QUOTE]

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