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<blockquote data-quote="Corwin" data-source="post: 62590" data-attributes="member: 1560"><p>You seem to contradict yourself here. On one hand you say shields are armor and match all aspects of armor. Then you say they don't because they don't mirror all armor features. Your reasoning is that they aren't strapped to your legs. Would this same reasoning not possibly be a valid argument for why monks could use them? Seems so to me. If they don't hamper someone, why do they hamper a monk? Monks specifically aren't allowed to wear armor because it hampers their mobility.</p><p></p><p>BTW, if shields were identical to armor and the same as armor, why were they not in the same column as armor? They are separated into their own list under the heading <u>Shields</u> in the armor <em>section</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So are you saying that anyone can draw an arrow as a free action to use as an improvised melee weapon? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So let me see if I get this straight. You fealt the need to insult me and pick apart my words after I politely disagreed with you? Why is that?</p><p></p><p>Care to back up your assessment that the PHB clearly rules that shields are indeed armor? Please explain tower shields using this criteria while you are at it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You love to quote the Sage at every oportunity. Except here for some reason. Your Sage has recently "ruled" on this very topic. I know you are aware of this, yet you play ignorant to it? Very childish, IMO (since we are currently at odds and you wanted to get into nitpicking and insults, I feel compelled to say so).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Interesting <em><strong><u>opinion</u></strong></em>. Artoomis had some great points regarding this. I suggest you refer to his post on this point. BTW, well done, Arty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Corwin, post: 62590, member: 1560"] You seem to contradict yourself here. On one hand you say shields are armor and match all aspects of armor. Then you say they don't because they don't mirror all armor features. Your reasoning is that they aren't strapped to your legs. Would this same reasoning not possibly be a valid argument for why monks could use them? Seems so to me. If they don't hamper someone, why do they hamper a monk? Monks specifically aren't allowed to wear armor because it hampers their mobility. BTW, if shields were identical to armor and the same as armor, why were they not in the same column as armor? They are separated into their own list under the heading [u]Shields[/u] in the armor [i]section[/i]. So are you saying that anyone can draw an arrow as a free action to use as an improvised melee weapon? So let me see if I get this straight. You fealt the need to insult me and pick apart my words after I politely disagreed with you? Why is that? Care to back up your assessment that the PHB clearly rules that shields are indeed armor? Please explain tower shields using this criteria while you are at it. You love to quote the Sage at every oportunity. Except here for some reason. Your Sage has recently "ruled" on this very topic. I know you are aware of this, yet you play ignorant to it? Very childish, IMO (since we are currently at odds and you wanted to get into nitpicking and insults, I feel compelled to say so). Interesting [i][b][u]opinion[/u][/b][/i][b][u][/u][/b][u][/u]. Artoomis had some great points regarding this. I suggest you refer to his post on this point. BTW, well done, Arty. [/QUOTE]
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