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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dogbrain" data-source="post: 1196587" data-attributes="member: 14980">Mind you, there are levels of difference here.In the Kingdom of Beza, only those Born Elect may obtain favor of Elon and eventually become great heroes.  All others are doomed for their souls to wander forever in the pits of Hyal, for this is what they deserve, by their very nature.  The Born Elect are, since they have favor of the Gods, easy to spot, for they are the ones who become heroes and great leaders--except for those who have become servants of Evil, who also get great power, but they are easy to spot, since they disagree with the edicts of the Beza hierarchy.  Any good or great deeds done by those not Born Elect are ultimately worthless, their fates are sealed.  Among the Born Elect, no evil deeds they do matter, for they are Favored of Elon from before the beginning of time.  Elon will call the Elect.  All who are not of the Elect or do not obey the Elect must be subjugated for the glory of Elon.In the Uytenbog Grand Duchy, on the other hand (a former province of the Kingdom of Beza), it is held that Elon has determined who He shall favor and other attitudes are very similar to Beza's, but one of the Born Elect can be cast out for misbehavior.The bordering kingdom of Embur holds that Elon has offered greatness and a place at His table and in His palace to all; this offer is undeserved by mortals and that Elon offers it from love.  However, only those who accept the offer and labor vigorously towards it actually get it.  Great deeds by those who do not accept Elon's offer are tragically wasted, so it is best to ensure that all know of the offer.</blockquote>

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