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<blockquote data-quote="Nivenus" data-source="post: 4815455" data-attributes="member: 71756"><p>Let me rephrase that since my choice of words was poor. What I mean is that I like mixing morality up with creatures to be sure... but it's less interesting to me if it's lopsided. If it's just black and gray than it's not really any different than black and white... except that one side is worse. That doesn't really interest me as much.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, there is a disconcerting element. While dragons are a poor case as it arguable that the evil dragons look as cool (or cooler) than the good ones, the orcs and eladrin examination is apt. As portrayed in D&D eladrin are beautiful. Orcs are ugly. Guess which one is more often evil? Same goes for goblins and gnomes. Or hags and dryads.</p><p></p><p>This was fine and all when things were black and white. But once you start introducing moral grays - but <em>only</em> with the nice creatures - it starts to bother me. Maybe that doesn't make much sense. But it's one of my few real complaints about 4e, which I otherwise greatly enjoy.</p><p></p><p>Interestingly, they went the opposite direction with tieflings in 4e - making them much more "unaligned" (as opposed to leaning towards evil) while making their appearance more outwardly bestial than it was in previous editions. Which I find nice for a change.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, there's alot of things that sound cool about Eberron to me - including this. I've been toying with trying out the setting for awhile but I'm pretty busy running an FR campaign at the moment. However, if the opportunity arises I'll probably try it out to see what it's like.</p><p></p><p>And I might just buy the EPG anyway, just to raid the crunch.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nivenus, post: 4815455, member: 71756"] Let me rephrase that since my choice of words was poor. What I mean is that I like mixing morality up with creatures to be sure... but it's less interesting to me if it's lopsided. If it's just black and gray than it's not really any different than black and white... except that one side is worse. That doesn't really interest me as much. Furthermore, there is a disconcerting element. While dragons are a poor case as it arguable that the evil dragons look as cool (or cooler) than the good ones, the orcs and eladrin examination is apt. As portrayed in D&D eladrin are beautiful. Orcs are ugly. Guess which one is more often evil? Same goes for goblins and gnomes. Or hags and dryads. This was fine and all when things were black and white. But once you start introducing moral grays - but [i]only[/i] with the nice creatures - it starts to bother me. Maybe that doesn't make much sense. But it's one of my few real complaints about 4e, which I otherwise greatly enjoy. Interestingly, they went the opposite direction with tieflings in 4e - making them much more "unaligned" (as opposed to leaning towards evil) while making their appearance more outwardly bestial than it was in previous editions. Which I find nice for a change. Yeah, there's alot of things that sound cool about Eberron to me - including this. I've been toying with trying out the setting for awhile but I'm pretty busy running an FR campaign at the moment. However, if the opportunity arises I'll probably try it out to see what it's like. And I might just buy the EPG anyway, just to raid the crunch. [/QUOTE]
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