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<blockquote data-quote="Agamon" data-source="post: 4819055" data-attributes="member: 184">So it's not the usablity of the monster that is the issue, it's the fact that there was a change and that some people like the change, some hate the change, some are unconcerned at that change.I see it the same way, for example, FR fans deal with change to their setting.&nbsp; Some people continued using 1e FR in 2e, some use 3e FR in 4e.&nbsp; The point is, the stats and rules change, but the fluff isn't incinerated.&nbsp; It's still usable, it still exists both on paper and in one's mind.&nbsp; Just because the 4e MM2 says Gold Dragons are Unaligned, that isn't exactly set in stone any more than any of their more mechanical stats are.The reason for the change is obvious.&nbsp; Yes, the MM has fightable monsters in it.&nbsp; Like Obryn said, they can be fought, but they need not necessarily be fought.&nbsp; The point of the MM is monsters that can be adversaries. But even a devil can be bargained with.And honestly, powerful dragons that are greedy and unconcerned with mortals makes more sense to me that all-powerful altruistic creatures.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Agamon, post: 4819055, member: 184"] So it's not the usablity of the monster that is the issue, it's the fact that there was a change and that some people like the change, some hate the change, some are unconcerned at that change. I see it the same way, for example, FR fans deal with change to their setting. Some people continued using 1e FR in 2e, some use 3e FR in 4e. The point is, the stats and rules change, but the fluff isn't incinerated. It's still usable, it still exists both on paper and in one's mind. Just because the 4e MM2 says Gold Dragons are Unaligned, that isn't exactly set in stone any more than any of their more mechanical stats are. The reason for the change is obvious. Yes, the MM has fightable monsters in it. Like Obryn said, they can be fought, but they need not necessarily be fought. The point of the MM is monsters that can be adversaries. But even a devil can be bargained with. And honestly, powerful dragons that are greedy and unconcerned with mortals makes more sense to me that all-powerful altruistic creatures. [/QUOTE]

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